I'm getting excited. Last time I was this excited Carl was a junior 747A.

 

I'm downright giddy about getting the 321 over the 739. The 321 is going to hold 7 more people than the 757 and the pay rate has to be negotiated. While they are likely going to be mostly replacement aircraft, that is a significant "improvement opportunity" (can I start writing alpa press releases now? ) and can't be taking lightly.

Where's that video with Cuba Gooding, Jr. yelling "show me the money!"??

 

I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I apologize for the poorly phrased question. I was simply asking if any positive announcements in the past resulted in growth?

9/11 crushed this profession. It brought it to it's knees. It's unfortunate, but it's reality. I've never denied that.

I'm ok with you saying that. And I agree with not getting too spun up. But it's nice to finally hear good news. I've never denied that I can be a overely optimistic at times, but can't we for once acknowledge some good news? Why do we always put a negative spin on it?

And would you agree that your initial post did not imply optimism? What I got out of it was that this would be a purely neutral transaction resulting in no growth. If that wasn't the intent if your statement, then I apologize.

Perhaps he did. But doesn't marketing control expansions? If these are touted as growth aircraft, wouldn't marketing decide when they're actually needed? I know the board has to approve it, but do they typically drive expansions?

I think that will always happen, regardless of who is our CEO. These guys aren't MBAs for nothing. They're smart and they're cunning.

 

I am sure he has to a point. But I for one will not give in the next round.. Cliche some may say... but the scope language was nailed down and contained. I will not vote for anything that changes scope or allows more JV's regardless of the wide bodies promised.... I am just one vote and it may be "tugging on super mans cape, or spittin into the wind" but a definite no vote if scope or JV's are tied to the order....

Fiig

 

Airbii

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You two clowns love to put words into my mouth!

Why is that?

You've go no other comeback? Where did I say anything was beneath me?

Where?

In fact, just a couple pages ago, I said I'd bid the 717 if they opened an MCO base!

All I'm saying, and pay attention this time, because I've got to go mow the lawn and get ready for work, is the Press Release said they would continue to pursue Capacity Discipline.

What does that mean to you? I know you know more than me, and everybody else, but do you know more than Richard too?

 

It's our secret plan to move up a number....

Enjoy your trip.

 

How was anything that I said gloomy? DL employed 10,400 pilots in 2001. I was 6822 when I got my seniority number in 2007... we are at 11,800 after merging with Northwest which had ~5500 pilots. The numbers speak for themselves! Timbo was speaking on reality when it comes to past actions in regard to growth.

All indications are that at least some of these will be growth aircraft, perhaps even all the 333s. The IGW version is a monster of an aircraft (higher pay rate??).

You're the one going "ho hum" over an Airbus order, btw...

 

The press release also says this:

The 30 A321s will expand Delta's existing fleet of 126 A320-family domestic aircraft. Delta's first three A321s are scheduled for delivery in the first quarter of 2016, with 12 more due in that year. The remaining 15 jets are scheduled for 2017.