Yes, excitement...I remember it well:




With all this growth news from J29, I'm celebrating with my new favorite ice cream!




Carl

 

Well which is replacing the 757s? Because previously you said it was the A321. But now you're saying it's the 737-900ER. So which is replacing the B757s?

Last I checked we have 139 B757-200s, 16 B757-300s, 16 B767-300s, & 69 A320s. And what defines "early generation?" Are you implying that Delta is parking all these airplanes by the end of the announced deliveries?


I agree, but that didn't answer my question.

 

Both, Johnso. There is always overlap on aircraft being delivered to replace aircraft. I've said over and over that at least some 321s are certainly replacement aircraft. Not all, some. You're putting words in my mouth again.

 

You didn't answer all of my questions. Could you please answer the other two?

 

I agree!

Now for a little historical perspective. This is the first Delta buy of an Airbus product since Ron Allen, bought and then cancelled the A310-300 (post Pan Am). Delta had an exclusive supplier relationship with Boeing for 20 years, which was cancelled when Europeans objected to the anti-competitive nature of the arrangement.

Word is, Delta came "very close" to ordering the C Series and that order is killed "for the time being." The fact this comment is even being made in the same story as the Airbus order says something about the believed capabilities of the C Series.

I'll put $20 in the Delta Pilot's Charitable fund if we don't have C Series on the property prior to a 787. It sure appears we are loading up on "interim" designs. Recall that Richard Anderson placed the order for the 787, then decided he did not like where that program was headed. Now the orders are pushed to 2020 & beyond.

The Airbus order was pretty easy to call due to the price differential. Now it would be interesting if some of these airplanes came out Airbus new plant in Mobile - Brookley with sub assemblies from Seattle. That facility should be making airplanes in 2015.

 

I doubt it, Bombardier limited the size of the C series due to that stupid agreement with China. That basically killed the airplane.

 

What do you want? For the 757s, all the 5500 and up through 670 are up for replacement. All of the 763 domestics (non-etops) are up for replacement. Without a life extension, 3209-3250 are up for replacement. Also, I believe some of the first delivery 88s are up as well.

I've never stated that all the 321s are non-growth. There is always overlap on deliveries being taken and aircraft being parked. You keep putting words in my mouth for some reason.

 

I did not put any words in your mouth. I simply asked you a series of questions.

You posted this:


And I posted this:


Where did I put any words in your mouth?

 

It's definitely good news if you value "fleet renewal" which is the reduction of your fleet's average age. To me, that clearly means replacing old aircraft with new ones. It's also good news if you like the continuing concept of "diligently managing capacity" and "continuing capacity discipline." But for you to grab "growth" as a headline out of the company's press releases, it sounds like you're doing too much of this again:




Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Cheerleading is fine and all. In fact, as shown below, Timbo used to be a cheerleader...albeit for very different reasons:





Carl

 

Mechanic was right about one thing: The announcement today

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