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TheWagman 11-25-2013 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1527959)
Anyone else get a refund from alpa for loss of license and life insurance premiums? Just got a check for $765.

Yeah!! Got one today for about $390!:)

Carl Spackler 11-25-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1527988)
Falcon 9 geostionary-orbit launch coming up within minutes.

Livestream here:
SpaceX | Launch Central

Cheers
George

Do you know if that launch is from KSC, or the equatorial launch pad at French Guyana?

Carl

tsquare 11-25-2013 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1528046)
Do you know if that launch is from KSC, or the equatorial launch pad at French Guyana?

Carl


Complex 40 At Canaveral. It got scrubbed for tonight. Elon needs to spend a little coin on public affairs. I'm 10 miles from the pads, and there is zero information being put out here. Here's a good link to a status report for Thursday. Spaceflightnow

tsquare 11-25-2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1527944)
Because 46 pilots that could come back with up to 13 years seniority just said "I quit." Apparently their are better jobs/careers out there. That is about 25% of the guys that had the opportunity to come back.

Some guys on this forum have said something to the affect of "If its that bad just quit." Well 46 Pilots just did.

Like I said there are still thousands waiting to get to DAL so maybe it will not make any difference, but it is something to consider.

This is not the career it used to be. I personally know 5 guys around my seniority (early 2000 hires) that have left and are not looking back. Well, maybe one of them is looking back. :)

Scoop

I still don't see what that has to do with the price of tea in China. They moved on... so what? There will still be a line of applicants around the block. Now if I were JetBlue's management I would be concerned...

buzzpat 11-25-2013 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1528063)
I still don't see what that has to do with the price of tea in China. They moved on... so what? There will still be a line of applicants around the block. Now if I were JetBlue's management I would be concerned...

Getting back to the original post and line of thought, the question was why/how guys choosing to forego DAL for other options might affect future contracts. That's a paraphrase.

The reason why it has something to do with the price of tea in China (or Atlanta) is that we have guys with 13 years of seniority at what many of us believe to be THE place to be choosing to be elsewhere. That shows some chinks in the armor. From your perspective, I understand why that's not important. From my perspective (and those junior to me), it matters hugely. As I said in an earlier post, we eat our young at DAL and management loves it. That's why.

tsquare 11-25-2013 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1528071)
Getting back to the original post and line of thought, the question was why/how guys choosing to forego DAL for other options might affect future contracts. That's a paraphrase.

The reason why it has something to do with the price of tea in China (or Atlanta) is that we have guys with 13 years of seniority at what many of us believe to be THE place to be choosing to be elsewhere. That shows some chinks in the armor. From your perspective, I understand why that's not important. From my perspective (and those junior to me), it matters hugely. As I said in an earlier post, we eat our young at DAL and management loves it. That's why.

I really don't see it that way. I get what you're saying, but I think this is much ado about nothing. It's 46 guys. Senior/junior... doesn't matter. I guess you could ask the same question about guys that supposedly retire early too... I just don't see it as a chink in the armor, but rather another opportunity that arose when they were not here. Now if guys were leaving who were still employed, I would see the point. Much like the concern at JetBlue. They should be concerned...

tsquare 11-25-2013 04:00 PM

Full Metal Jacket starting right now on IFC...

Is that a jelly doughnut in your foot locker Private Spackler?

buzzpat 11-25-2013 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1528078)
I really don't see it that way. I get what you're saying, but I think this is much ado about nothing. It's 46 guys. Senior/junior... doesn't matter. I guess you could ask the same question about guys that supposedly retire early too... I just don't see it as a chink in the armor, but rather another opportunity that arose when they were not here. Now if guys were leaving who were still employed, I would see the point. Much like the concern at JetBlue. They should be concerned...

Well, its 46 guys out of 150. When you take into consideration that there were 1200-1400 furloughed at one point and, anecdotally, I'm guessing less than half came back....

That means they're employed by somebody else that offers a better gig. Again, that's a trend and a sign. If we're going to be THE place to be, that would be nil. We're not JetBlue, which is why those guys are coming back to us. Apparently, we're not FedEx or SWA either. That's troubling in my mind.

tsquare 11-25-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1528083)
That means they're employed by somebody else that offers a better gig. Again, that's a trend and a sign. If we're going to be THE place to be, that would be nil. We're not JetBlue, which is why those guys are coming back to us. Apparently, we're not FedEx or SWA either. That's troubling in my mind.

Let me ask it this way. How many went to another airline? If even half of them did, then maybe you have a point. If they are bond traders making $1.6 mil on Wall Street... well......


I'll give you the last word on this.. Gunny Hartman is making me spit coffee....

Happy Thanksgiving all...

buzzpat 11-25-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1528089)
Let me ask it this way. How many went to another airline? If even half of them did, then maybe you have a point. If they are bond traders making $1.6 mil on Wall Street... well......


I'll give you the last word on this.. Gunny Hartman is making me spit coffee....

Happy Thanksgiving all...

Great flick! Enjoy T.

Happy Thanksgiving bros! Home for the week! The -900 is pretty sweet. The blue lighting is sexy. ;)


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