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Originally Posted by Express pilot
(Post 1474485)
College football, SN Torpedo, a little popcorn. Not thinking about DALPA.
http://www.thebluepennant.com/theblu...y1-620x350.jpg I've been thinking about Clowney all week. Can't sleep. Oh I'm scared. Then I realized I'm not a football player. It helped a little. |
I guess it's Dragon Con time here in the A T L. Summary: it's okay to pick on Moak, not so okay to pick on Caplinger, kinda okay to pick on Kingsley and then everyone tore apart the 76 seat section based on a rumor of 717 issues and there's still that widebody rumor to be squashed and no one cares that dues are going to go up if the DPA takes over in the next 8 months.
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Originally Posted by hitimefurl
(Post 1474498)
I guess it's Dragon Con time here in the A T L. Summary: it's okay to pick on Moak, not so okay to pick on Caplinger, kinda okay to pick on Kingsley and then everyone tore apart the 76 seat section based on a rumor of 717 issues and there's still that widebody rumor to be squashed and no one cares that dues are going to go up if the DPA takes over in the next 8 months.
My question on the 717 came from a miscommunication between my rep and I. I mentioned the delay (which currently stands at 1 week, no big deal at the moment) and asked what that has to do with the 76 seaters, and he said nothing could be done until Jan 1, thinking I was asking about MBH. Thankfully that was cleared up and there isn't a loophole with that portion. |
Originally Posted by hitimefurl
(Post 1474498)
I guess it's Dragon Con time here in the A T L. Summary: it's okay to pick on Moak, not so okay to pick on Caplinger, kinda okay to pick on Kingsley and then everyone tore apart the 76 seat section based on a rumor of 717 issues and there's still that widebody rumor to be squashed and no one cares that dues are going to go up if the DPA takes over in the next 8 months.
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Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble If ALPA had been serious about advancing the profession, we would not be hearing about the DPA. From tsquare I don't believe that is true. I think Caplinger's hatred for all things ALPA is so deep seeded that he will keep it alive just to continue to poke them in the eye. (Wasn't there original a red line after which, if they didn't have the cards they would go away? Seems that line is about as real as Oboma's) He feels he was betrayed when he got furloughed. He wants revenge. He will miss his target and he is hitting us. I find that offensive. If you buy into his rhetoric, you must believe that negotiating our contract is a very simple thing. If you believe that... truly believe that, then you have a lot to learn about business. OK, let me rephrase: If ALPA was doing its' job, then the DPA would have quickly fallen off the radar screen, and we would not be having this discussion. For the record, I know negotiating pilot working agreements is not a simple thing. But the following is: leave personalities out of it. We can debate the strength and weaknesses of ALPA without impugning individuals. |
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1474502)
Who's giving Caplinger a break? He's getting eaten alive on here, moreso than Moak I'd say.
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1474444)
Johnso, you just demonstrated (with help from your union friend) how you dispense anything and everything you can conjure up to defend mother ALPA at all costs even if it is misleading and untrue.
Are you stating that DALPA has control over how DAL management spends $$$? Are you stating that we as pilots had control? Could DAL have not provided the financing necessary for Pinnacle to stay afloat without our current contract? From what I have been told by Pinnacle pilots, 9e had the youngest CRJ-200s in the DCI fleet. So explain to me how DALPA screwed up. Or better yet, tell me how DPA would've done it better. |
Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble
(Post 1474506)
OK, let me rephrase: If ALPA was doing its' job, then the DPA would have quickly fallen off the radar screen, and we would not be having this discussion.
For the record, I know negotiating pilot working agreements is not a simple thing. But the following is: leave personalities out of it. We can debate the strength and weaknesses of ALPA without impugning individuals. |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1474440)
You are ignoring the fact a host of the RJ contracts are coming up and would not need to be renewed (this also was part of the "time limited opportunity" along with engine overhaul requirements). Management needed to quickly implement a program to switch out and renew contracts before heaven forbid someone from the union fought against outsourced C-scale pilots performing Delta flying. Focus on the the 717 yall....don't watch what I am doing with this other hand.
Management and you fail to bring that up though. Your response is so management groupthink ingrained you completely overlooked the obvious answer to your own question..."Oh, and tell me what Delta would have looked like with the loss of 1/3 of DCI over the summer...I think they were about 8% of our domestic network." The answer: A transition program implemented well ahead of time to keep the planes flying.....By DELTA MAINLINE PILOTS! Well you'll need to provide proof of the contract expiration dates and proof that the contracts would not need to be renewed. Because the 10-K info that I saw from Skywest/ASA shows that their CPAs were good through 2022. |
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