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Old 11-26-2013, 06:20 AM
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Let me ask it this way. How many went to another airline? If even half of them did, then maybe you have a point. If they are bond traders making $1.6 mil on Wall Street... well......


I'll give you the last word on this.. Gunny Hartman is making me spit coffee....

Happy Thanksgiving all...

I think the reality of those returning is comparing their DAL career to where ever they went. I came back in the 1st Recall class in 10'. We had pilots from Alaska, Fed-X, UPS, Net Jets, Frontier, Spirit, Jet Blue, and Foreign Carriers.

For me it was the decision to be near the bottom of a a small 737 airline w/ 4 years Sen or return w/ 10 years to DAL and have more opportunities down range.

Happy TG to all - I'll be in Central America as my 13+ years can't hold Holidays off.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:30 AM
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Great flick! Enjoy T.

Happy Thanksgiving bros! Home for the week! The -900 is pretty sweet. The blue lighting is sexy.
I got to fly one this last weekend. Don't forget to add that the temp controllers work, when you press recall the lights come on, oh and it flies straight!
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31 View Post
I got to fly one this last weekend. Don't forget to add that the temp controllers work, when you press recall the lights come on, oh and it flies straight!
All of that stuff will stop working after they get good and dusty or someone spills their coffee.

Can it do a vnav descent with a tailwind?
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja View Post
I think the reality of those returning is comparing their DAL career to where ever they went. I came back in the 1st Recall class in 10'. We had pilots from Alaska, Fed-X, UPS, Net Jets, Frontier, Spirit, Jet Blue, and Foreign Carriers.

For me it was the decision to be near the bottom of a a small 737 airline w/ 4 years Sen or return w/ 10 years to DAL and have more opportunities down range.

Happy TG to all - I'll be in Central America as my 13+ years can't hold Holidays off.

Baja.

I agree with TS. I think these guys just found something better.

I came from the military and had very little interaction with people who had what we would call regular jobs. Once I was at DL I saw there were a lot of ways to make money.

We have a good job but not a great job. I have been lucky in when I was hired so I haven't been furloughed, but I always said that flying is not the only thing I could do. Perhaps that is what these guys have done.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil View Post
I agree with TS. I think these guys just found something better.

I came from the military and had very little interaction with people who had what we would call regular jobs. Once I was at DL I saw there were a lot of ways to make money.

We have a good job but not a great job. I have been lucky in when I was hired so I haven't been furloughed, but I always said that flying is not the only thing I could do. Perhaps that is what these guys have done.
Of the three guys I remember from my New Hire class that haven't returned - one quit after 9/11, his wife was freaked when he flew and she came from BIG $$$, the two others have done Mil Leave to finish their 20 and are returning. I don;t know any they gave up DAL for other flying jobs. I'm sure some are making better $$ in Law or Wall St. There was one chick that left Corp flying to be an RN. Not sure I'd do that....There hours are worse than ours.

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Old 11-26-2013, 07:55 AM
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I wouldn't read too much into guys or gals electing to not return. Sometimes there are equities in life that go beyond the mere W-2.

A common theme I've seen is going to work at the family business. Mom n Pop sends you to school, and you get the flying bug. You give it a whirl and make it to the big show. Money's good and responsibility is pretty light....until the BK hits.

While on furlough you go back to work with the family, and you come to realize that owning your own business is really the only way to become truly in charge of your destiny, and one of the few ways to generate true wealth.

Or someone may have married into, or had their SOs work develop into a good situation.

Or perhaps parenting became a priority.

Or they found something they just like better.

Look, I don't deny it's a good gig that pays a fair number of quatloos, but it's hardly the center of the universe.

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How many just can't get a new medical?

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:07 AM
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How many just can't get a new medical?


Future Mayor of Toronto???

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:09 AM
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One good thing about being an airline pilot, is you can run the family business and fly*.

*As long as you don't commute.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:19 AM
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I gave Capt OE to a guy who was also a dentist. He said he was the black sheep in is family because both his sister and brother were doctors and lawyers. After the second day I asked him to stop asking me questions about the 330 because he was making me feel really stupid.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman View Post
I believe that a rocket launched from the Kourou (French Guiana) site can handle a geostationary payload about 15% greater than if launched from Canaveral. Perhaps this satellite isn't heavy enough to require the extra performance, and they already have infrastructure in place at the Cape. If they moved the same rocket to Kourou it would still have to be fully fueled, for structural reasons, so they'd just schedule a shorter burn.
I guess that's right. If they didn't need the extra payload capacity.

I didn't know that those rockets need to launch fully loaded with fuel for structural reasons. They're most vulnerable structurally at MaxQ, and fuel at that velocity is well below full.

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