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Old 12-01-2013 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
He missed the easily first one, the hook shot, and the one into the line that was called a block. That's why I think he was surprised.
Yep, his FG's looked eerily similar to my tee shots. A push to the left then a hook.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Ok, how about low class? As far as "Is it preferable to have nothing?" For me yes. Did I eat the sandwich? Of course, I'm a pilot and it was free. That doesn't change my opinion of this weak attempt of appreciation.
I'm with NERD. I'd rather have nothing than a half-ass gesture. I already know it's Thanksgiving, and I don't need a poster and a sack lunch to make being at work suck more. Apparently the "me-too" clause (FA buffet) is a one-way (or should I say, wrong way) street when it comes to us.

And while I'm at it...is anyone else put off by the yearly requests for holiday tips, I mean, contributions, for the CPO staff? Apparently they haul in several hundred bucks each. Sure, they replenish the ear plug dispenser, and often help us when we need it...occasionally even cheerfully. but that is why they are being paid.

Bah, humbug.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I went out of JFK on Wednesday. By the coffee machine there was a pile of cookies, pretzels, and M & M's off the airplane, which I assumed was our Pre-Thanksgiving "treat." No problem. It wasn't Thanksgiving and if they were going to do something special, doing it on the next day made sense to me. Until…..

…one of our flight attendants showed us the pictures she took of the FULL BUFFET (Turkey, dressing, pumpkin pie, etc.) they had in the flight attendant lounge at the same time.

I brushed it off, because I thought she might have been playing a joke on us.

But, now all I can say is: Really?

Did the flight attendants really have a buffet in JFK the day before Thanksgiving, too?
I know this is a loaded statement and I'll probably get slack for it....I'm sure there was a time when management over-catered to pilots and spoiled them, but know we have gone so far in the opposite direction it's pathetic.

I had the holiday off, but regardless, it would've been nice for the company to go a little above the menial gesture of providing a meal for pilots who had to work over the holiday.
A nice, hot buffet served by a manger from the chief pilot's office would be much more genuine of gesture as opposed to a brown bag filled with a constructive-engagement turkey and good faith mashed potatoes. Granted it is the thought that counts, but sometimes it's also the degree of effort.

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Old 12-01-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Yep, his FG's looked eerily similar to my tee shots. A push to the left then a hook.
His poor performance is going to make for an interesting discussion for who should be in the national championship game, if Ohio State loses to Michigan State.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I went out of JFK on Wednesday. By the coffee machine there was a pile of cookies, pretzels, and M & M's off the airplane, which I assumed was our Pre-Thanksgiving "treat." No problem. It wasn't Thanksgiving and if they were going to do something special, doing it on the next day made sense to me. Until…..

…one of our flight attendants showed us the pictures she took of the FULL BUFFET (Turkey, dressing, pumpkin pie, etc.) they had in the flight attendant lounge at the same time.

I brushed it off, because I thought she might have been playing a joke on us.

But, now all I can say is: Really?

Did the flight attendants really have a buffet in JFK the day before Thanksgiving, too?
The Delta pilots' "Me Too" clause will correct this!

Oh wait...

Carl
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
I know this is a loaded statement and I'll probably get slack for it....I'm sure there was a time when management over-catered to pilots and spoiled them, but know we have gone so far in the opposite direction it's pathetic.

I had the holiday off, but regardless, it would've been nice for the company to go a little above the menial gesture if providing meal for pilots who had to work on a holiday.
A nice, hot buffet served by a manger from the chief pilot's office would be much more genuine of gesture as opposed to a brown bag filled with a constructive-engagement turkey and good faith mashed potatoes. Granted it is the thought that counts, but sometimes it's also the degree of effort.
After two long haul flights where they could have loaded crew meals on then, I had a few buffalo wings at the hotel bar when I got to my layover on Thanksgiving. I was grateful that they were open.

I'm also grateful that I'm not carrying those extra 3-5 pounds everyone is complaining about after this weekend.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
The Delta pilots' "Me Too" clause will correct this!

Oh wait...

Carl
I guess we are strong enough to pull people up, but too heavy to be lifted.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:33 PM
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Just checked my YTD ALPA dues.... $4887

Definitely not getting the representation I deserve for that amount of cash outlay.

Oh well...someone has to pay for the oil painting of Commodore Moak.

Good news is the 3% raise should cover dues and increased heLth care costs next year....nothing like treading water for the last 10 years.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Funny! It was behind the FO's seat. I noticed it and the FO hung onto it until we had some sit time in Atlanta. There wasn't a name in it and the chief pilot's office was closed, so he left it in the lost and found.


Originally Posted by Thrust Normal
I was in Atlanta this morning and they were open. On a side note thanks to whoever my MCRB I left in a plane in Atlanta's lost and found. That saved me a lot of trouble trying to get that replaced.
Old 12-01-2013 | 12:50 PM
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Also....

Carl hang in there! There's alot of lurkers here and you are their voice! You and 88driver keep these ALPA mouthpeices in check.

One last thing just came back from Las Vegas where I grew up... best friend from high school is a Southwest 92 hire....saw his 2013 ytd earnings (Nov 15 check).... going to go over 300k for the 8th straight year....works 17-18 days per month
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