And bidding closes in two days. It would be nice to know what the reserve rules are for January before submitting a bid.

 

You got that right.

 

No doubt. But he ended up rubbing DAL's nose in it. I'm just saying they play rough sometimes.... Watch out. RA is still on Lorenzo's Christmas card list.

 

This doesn't just affect reserves.

We have a lot of senior lineholders who love green slips. They are not going to like it one bit when they figure out they can never get another same day greenie.
Same deal for white slips. Its going to be a lot harder for a lineholder who is short just to fill up.
Being "senior" just lost a lot of it's power.

I'm not sure management has thought that one through either. They better have a plan for putting a lot more guys on short call. Or watch out for reroutes.

 

Check,

If what you are saying is true, we are short thousands of pilots. In my category, the big change is 3 nights sleep back home after an ULH. This can be mitigated by making trips longer, so I don't think it will be super-negative. However, if you need scheduled rest before a whiteslip / greenslip, the company cant cover open time the way we are manned.

There is no question that reroute is the new shortcall for domestics.

 

Captain W.O.W. was a much despised pilot at DAL (from what I have heard, to be fair I never met the guy) and I know of not one pilot who lamented him.

 

Check Essential


From ALPA's Guide to 117:

Q-32. A flightcrew member is on days off. Can the company call him for a flight assignment?
A-32. Yes. If the flightcrew member answers the call, the
company can assign him to flight duty. However, the
Company must give the flightcrew the required 10-hour
rest period and then place the crewmember on short call
reserve.

Q-33. Can a flightcrew member who is on days off voluntarily elect to
pick up a trip from open time?
A-33. Yes. This is not prohibited by the regulation so long as the
flightcrew member is rested, fit for duty, within applicable
limits for duty and flight time, and prepared to perform the
assigned duties.

I would think 32 applies to inverse assignment (ie: they're hosed.)
I would think 33 applies to GS/WS.

My opinion only.

 

As I read it, our 3-hour acknowledgment is dead. It's illegal. They can't assign retroactive rest for Reserves, so you need to get your assignment, and go to bed, shut the curtains nice and tight, and sing yourself a lullaby.

I think the questions are:

1) Do we really have a responsibility to be available via phone at any time? We seem to have a responsibility to be available for contact, and we seem to have the right to acknowledge electronically.
2) Who has the right to determine how contact is made under the current contract?

The bottom line is that there are some issues in the contract that are changing because they violate FAR117. Some of these penalize the company, and this one seems to penalize us. Nonetheless, there needs to be a discussion on how the transition occurs, and I think we all agree that it's not SD's prerogative to make decrees in that regard.

 

I think it might. I think the language is specific to Reserves, re-reading through SD's letter.

With a LC Reserve, there are some obligations to be available (which are not as clear as I thought), but the point is that if you're on LC, you're NOT on rest. Before you do the assignment, you need enough rest. That rest isn't retroactively assigned, and needs to be defined.

A Regular pilot that's not flying has no obligations, and is on rest. Such a pilot getting a WS would be doing so voluntarily, during his rest, if I understand correctly.

Edit: I see it was addressed three posts above.

 

The rampant reroutes will assuredly affect regular pilots.

Too bad we didn't clamp down on the reroute language on C12. Oh, well, "we'll get 'em next time."

We needed to hear something--anything!--today from DALPA that they're on this. We heard nothing.