Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-21-2014, 04:23 PM
Wind the clock beoch
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New avatar suggestion for shiznit...
No waivers.
No favors.
I follow the contract, and All Pilot Memos.
No waivers.
No favors.
I follow the contract, and All Pilot Memos.
04-21-2014, 04:36 PM
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by dalad
I would venture to guess they are filling up to the G/S trigger.
Personally I would like to see a cap on pay of 80 hours per month with anything above 80 going into the bank but even then the max monthly would be 85. Over 85 hours and something would have to be dropped.
04-21-2014, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
Congratulations, you are now SD's B****. If everyone did what you did, there would be no problem and we could just write our contract in pencil and hand the company an eraser.
04-21-2014, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
Me neither. Of course you can avoid sit length in PBS and PCS. But
a long sit usually means a long duty day, pushing FAR117 limits. I,ve seen lots of 12:30+ scheduled days with a 13 hour max. Saw a 12:53 scheduled four leg domestic... very common. Pilots routinely accepting extended duty days only encourages this scheduling practice.
a long sit usually means a long duty day, pushing FAR117 limits. I,ve seen lots of 12:30+ scheduled days with a 13 hour max. Saw a 12:53 scheduled four leg domestic... very common. Pilots routinely accepting extended duty days only encourages this scheduling practice.
And from that Aviation Week article: " In terms of hours and cycles remaining in the design life, Delta could theoretically operate the MD-90s for another 50 years, based on the current dispatch profile."
OH BOY!
Last edited by PilotFrog; 04-21-2014 at 05:42 PM.
04-21-2014, 05:45 PM
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
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Originally Posted by Flamer
I'm following the contract, not the memo. Have been on the phone with the ALPA scheduling genious a lot, had CPO threats and they even dug out my families phone number from my emergency contact section and they called that too. Real classy.
You have go to stand up for yourself and other union members when you know you are right. Tip.....know you are right, and you will be fine. Keep the union in the loop. Nothing is going to change as long as we capitulate to unilateral contract changes.
You have go to stand up for yourself and other union members when you know you are right. Tip.....know you are right, and you will be fine. Keep the union in the loop. Nothing is going to change as long as we capitulate to unilateral contract changes.
04-21-2014, 05:57 PM
Da Hudge
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So.... I have a carry out trip that goes the 1-3 of May.
There is a day trip on the first and a 2-day on the 2nd and 3rd that I'd prefer to swap that with.... but it's not letting me since the second trip (that i have to have for the drop portion due to rsv coverage) is in the May bid period. Am I hosed and stuck with the trip?
There is a day trip on the first and a 2-day on the 2nd and 3rd that I'd prefer to swap that with.... but it's not letting me since the second trip (that i have to have for the drop portion due to rsv coverage) is in the May bid period. Am I hosed and stuck with the trip?
04-21-2014, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
So.... I have a carry out trip that goes the 1-3 of May.
There is a day trip on the first and a 2-day on the 2nd and 3rd that I'd prefer to swap that with.... but it's not letting me since the second trip (that i have to have for the drop portion due to rsv coverage) is in the May bid period. Am I hosed and stuck with the trip?
There is a day trip on the first and a 2-day on the 2nd and 3rd that I'd prefer to swap that with.... but it's not letting me since the second trip (that i have to have for the drop portion due to rsv coverage) is in the May bid period. Am I hosed and stuck with the trip?
No way can Delta's Lack of Technology handle such a transaction!
04-21-2014, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
Excellent to hear. I actually agree with Purple that the union should come out and make 0% interest loans to guys like you to offset the PD. In fact if that was done and more people followed the letter of the contract the 117 negotiations would already be done.
If scheduling calls you 15 hours out, and you answer the phone and immediately acknowledge, you are following "the letter of the contract" just as much as if you waited until three hours prior.
04-21-2014, 06:16 PM
The Brown Dot +1
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
You are probably right...... But on an even bigger picture if there was no GS, ability to pick up 15 over ALV, ability to fly extra in vacation months, swap with pot to go even higher than ALV + 15, how many additional positions do you think we would need?
Personally I would like to see a cap on pay of 80 hours per month with anything above 80 going into the bank but even then the max monthly would be 85. Over 85 hours and something would have to be dropped.
Personally I would like to see a cap on pay of 80 hours per month with anything above 80 going into the bank but even then the max monthly would be 85. Over 85 hours and something would have to be dropped.
But, that is not the system we have
04-21-2014, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
You are probably right...... But on an even bigger picture if there was no GS, ability to pick up 15 over ALV, ability to fly extra in vacation months, swap with pot to go even higher than ALV + 15, how many additional positions do you think we would need?
Personally I would like to see a cap on pay of 80 hours per month with anything above 80 going into the bank but even then the max monthly would be 85. Over 85 hours and something would have to be dropped.
Personally I would like to see a cap on pay of 80 hours per month with anything above 80 going into the bank but even then the max monthly would be 85. Over 85 hours and something would have to be dropped.
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