Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-30-2014, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Good point. Those 5am report, 10pm releases, panic "HOW SOON CAN YOU GET HERE?!?!?!?!?!" calls for any of 3 airports and $20's flying out of your wallet cabbing/vanning it all over the place to put out fires are pretty popular. Plus who wants 19-21+ days off when you can have 12 non commutable days off instead? But the hourly rate is higher, and you get to give half to your favorite charity 
07-30-2014, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
With all the doom & gloom of the Whale news today, something that was not mentioned here was the hiring being ramped up to 85/mo immediately. Only makes sense that if we're parking the Whales then SOMETHING is on it's way & soon otherwise why the dramatic uptic in hiring?
07-30-2014, 09:02 PM
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Gloopy,
As usual, Delta is slowly liquidating the most expensive carrier and placing growth within our network where it is less expensive to operate. We permit this through multiple failures (aka use of bargaining leverage to trade jobs for pay) of our scope. The result is that retirements will mostly be backfilled by pilots who are not on our seniority list.
Management was remarkably transparent in their last quarterly earnings call. Pilots from Endeavor to Air France are part of a single transportation system. We are a niche. A large niche, but we risk no longer being the pilots of Delta airlines. We are but one group which does some Delta flying. Not really different than Endeavor. God knows I fought this.
As long as we use our scope to divide labor we will not see our pilot group grow, or prosper in the ways that we had envisioned. We must change our mindset and use scope to unify labor.
As usual, Delta is slowly liquidating the most expensive carrier and placing growth within our network where it is less expensive to operate. We permit this through multiple failures (aka use of bargaining leverage to trade jobs for pay) of our scope. The result is that retirements will mostly be backfilled by pilots who are not on our seniority list.
Management was remarkably transparent in their last quarterly earnings call. Pilots from Endeavor to Air France are part of a single transportation system. We are a niche. A large niche, but we risk no longer being the pilots of Delta airlines. We are but one group which does some Delta flying. Not really different than Endeavor. God knows I fought this.
As long as we use our scope to divide labor we will not see our pilot group grow, or prosper in the ways that we had envisioned. We must change our mindset and use scope to unify labor.
07-30-2014, 09:30 PM
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I wonder how much each 747-400 cabin is to refurb? Between jet-out-of-commission indirect costs and the refurb bill itself.
Long live the Whale!
Long live the Whale!
07-30-2014, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cni187
One man's garbage is another man's treasure. I'm not going to be a x-country commuter anymore. SFO-SLC is Waaaaaay shorter than SFO-JFK!!! Commuting day of to a rotation?!!? What a concept!!!
07-30-2014, 10:01 PM
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Every time... they get my hopes up, talk about wide body spots and finally upwards movement, and then...
BAM!!!!
Retire 74s, don't backfill more ER B than they said they would, don't backfill west coast spots that they posted openings above, so once again no goodness flows downhill in the west.
Such a bummer.
BAM!!!!
Retire 74s, don't backfill more ER B than they said they would, don't backfill west coast spots that they posted openings above, so once again no goodness flows downhill in the west.
Such a bummer.
07-30-2014, 10:20 PM
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Looks like a lot of people that have been waiting got to move west on this one, though. That seems to be the best part about this "big" bid modified to be much smaller.
07-31-2014, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Gloopy,
As usual, Delta is slowly liquidating the most expensive carrier and placing growth within our network where it is less expensive to operate. We permit this through multiple failures (aka use of bargaining leverage to trade jobs for pay) of our scope. The result is that retirements will mostly be backfilled by pilots who are not on our seniority list.
Management was remarkably transparent in their last quarterly earnings call. Pilots from Endeavor to Air France are part of a single transportation system. We are a niche. A large niche, but we risk no longer being the pilots of Delta airlines. We are but one group which does some Delta flying. Not really different than Endeavor. God knows I fought this.
As long as we use our scope to divide labor we will not see our pilot group grow, or prosper in the ways that we had envisioned. We must change our mindset and use scope to unify labor.
As usual, Delta is slowly liquidating the most expensive carrier and placing growth within our network where it is less expensive to operate. We permit this through multiple failures (aka use of bargaining leverage to trade jobs for pay) of our scope. The result is that retirements will mostly be backfilled by pilots who are not on our seniority list.
Management was remarkably transparent in their last quarterly earnings call. Pilots from Endeavor to Air France are part of a single transportation system. We are a niche. A large niche, but we risk no longer being the pilots of Delta airlines. We are but one group which does some Delta flying. Not really different than Endeavor. God knows I fought this.
As long as we use our scope to divide labor we will not see our pilot group grow, or prosper in the ways that we had envisioned. We must change our mindset and use scope to unify labor.
07-31-2014, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
How did we all get brainwashed to the point where we are happy just to get 51% of the delta flying? Then, we can't even get that much.
07-31-2014, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It means we are overstaffed.
Hawaiian Airlines Orders 6 Airbus A330-800neo Aircraft - NASDAQ.com
and .... EADS has insisted Skymarks do business with Delta, or not get airplanes. Since the jets are already built ... .
I wrote about this a year ago. Nobody's paying attention.
Hawaiian Airlines Orders 6 Airbus A330-800neo Aircraft - NASDAQ.com
and .... EADS has insisted Skymarks do business with Delta, or not get airplanes. Since the jets are already built ... .
I wrote about this a year ago. Nobody's paying attention.
The canceled all A380 orders, even the one they were due to take delivery of...
Airbus Terminates Skymark Order for Six A380 Superjumbos - Bloomberg
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