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Old 07-30-2014 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
It's tough to tell if they added 777 FOs, but if they did without adding captains, it means more 3 man stuff...not so good. Parking 744s early lends credence to the 10 used 777-300s rumor. One can hope.

I guess bainite counted, but idk if he counted the guys that bid off.
You talking the Korean 777-300's that they are returning to Boeing?
Old 07-30-2014 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Mason
If they didn't backfill, then they need to offer those to existing pilots first. If there were no bids in that is different. Do not forget that they are parking a few 757's this fall. The staffing may not be needed.
The spots have to be available for bid. They do not have to post a specific AE. They were available on this AE so they can now place new hires in those spots.
Old 07-30-2014 | 05:54 PM
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You talking the Korean 777-300's that they are returning to Boeing?
Hopefully this is a valid aircraft rumor.:
Old 07-30-2014 | 05:56 PM
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Looking at the SLC 7ER, the new plug was 20 from the bottom prior to 2014 hiring. With the newhires one year training freeze, SLC 7ER might go to new hires this month!
Old 07-30-2014 | 06:07 PM
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By " bringing the Narita hub back home" to SEA, we don't need the 74 feed across the Pacific.

I predict a big Airbus order, with used 330's arriving much sooner than expected, to include 330 NEO's arriving later when the rest of the 74's are due for heavy checks.

This new acft order will require early and quick action by DALPA (like the 717 time critical opportunity) resulting in early outs for 74 drivers, training relief for the company, and possibly a C2015 TA ahead of schedule..

Jmho..back to my IPA

Edit; didn't know about the Korean Air 777-300 rumor..that would make more sense in the immediate future, especially given the increased 777B awards in the AE. How many 777's are we talking about?

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Old 07-30-2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
By " bringing the Narita hub back home" to SEA, we don't need the 74 feed across the Pacific.

I predict a big Airbus order, much sooner than expected, to include 330 NEO's arriving later when the rest of the 74's are due for heavy checks..jmho.
That doesn't account for the massive capacity loss just 2 months away. Something else is going on.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I'm about half way up in ATL, I guess it'll depend on how many retire, vs. displace into the DTW 777, vs. displace into the ATL 777.

It sure ain't gonna' help!

I guess now we know why they haven't replaced the 17+ ATL 777 Capts. who have retired in the last 18mo. They'll have PLENTY 747 displacements coming in Jan, no doubt!

I wouldn't want to be the plug on it today, they are toast.
No dog in this fight, but trust me, there are worse places in aviation, hell DL, than the Whale CA plug.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Mason
I would state that most of the MEC that voted for it is no longer on the MEC, but the IAAC Chair of that time, is now an EA and the MEC does not vote on them, just confirms.
I would argue while the faces change, the philosophical makeup hasn't.

Gotcha.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 06:39 PM
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This AE is a buzzkill.
Old 07-30-2014 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
methinks Donatelli has some paperwork to generate.
Yup. As our widebody fleet slowly fades away, I would expect a Chairman's Letter pretty soon on why the international codesharing and joint venture agreements are still a good thing.

Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.

Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.

My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
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