Flamer,
Yes I am. I don't want to be, but are you going to pay my bills when I get PDs on every work day. If so, I will gladly stay home. I have "voluntarily" acknowledged with a gun to my head. Please show me an alternative!

 

Me neither. Of course you can avoid sit length in PBS and PCS. But
a long sit usually means a long duty day, pushing FAR117 limits. I,ve seen lots of 12:30+ scheduled days with a 13 hour max. Saw a 12:53 scheduled four leg domestic... very common. Pilots routinely accepting extended duty days only encourages this scheduling practice.

 

Please don't take this the wrong way. A lot of what we call this 'career' comes from sacrifice. Missed paychecks, contingency funds, and Plan B's are a way of life in our line of work. It sucks that you'd be losing pay-hopefully you'd be getting it back via a group grievance. But keep in mind that the responsibility of defending our contract lies with each and every one of us. Sometimes it's all of us together, as in a picket line or even a strike, if it comes to that. Other times it's just us individually. I hope everyone keeps this in mind throughout our careers. Again, I don't know your circumstances and I'm not calling you out...

 

If you don't recognize the handicap that an injunction has on a labor union then you really should stop while you're only this far behind.

My "data" won't get publishing on an anonymous webboard, but a couple calls to my reps and the scheduling committee cleared it up for me.

If you're mad go see a therapist, if you're interested in negotiating a change to your working conditions then I suggest you leave the emotion at home.

 

After the 20th with G#2 going out?

I don't know what life is like at the senior end of the list, but we junior folks are so unstacked upon that we could drop two trips and STILL be over the GS trigger.

 

To refresh your memory, the injunction at DAL was followed by C2K.

 

To refresh your memory, the injunction at AMR was followed by a $55 million judgement and 7 years of no progress in Section 6.

 

Good luck with that....

 

Still you are unable to refute the undeniable fact that the C2K followed on the heels of the injunction at DAL.

Plus, an illegal sickout is COMPLETELY different than simply following the contract. But you knew that already.

An injunction at DAL would not have been a sure thing, nor would it necessarily have been catastrophic to us. The reality is that this is purely a hypothetical discussion since DALPA has neither the initiative nor the will to fight.

 

You MAY be right--or you may not know the entire story. You are assuming that everyone already has a full month, THEN they are putting in WS. I know guys that will drop their schedule to very low (even zero) then put in a GS first thing. Once they have secured their GS, now they need to get the rest of their flying up to the trigger in order for their GS to pay double.

In fact in our pre-PBS line of time bidding days, I flew with a very senior captain who did just that. This was also from the time where a pilot got two GS in seniority order before a junior pilot even got one (I am glad we changed that, by the way).

He would use a tool called an "empty moveup" (pre-PBS) to start out his month with a value of zero. He would then get his two GS, then do nothing but WS easy turnarounds or two day trips. He did this for years.

So perhaps some of these guys white slipping that you are observing are doing something similar.