Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-21-2014, 06:40 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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Originally Posted by dalad
I would venture to guess they are filling up to the G/S trigger.
04-21-2014, 07:00 AM
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Great article on a Cathay Pacific 330 that had a double flameout over the South China Sea a few years ago... reminds me of the sweater in the fuel tank story back in the day...
Pilots reveal death-defying ordeal as engines failed on approach to Chek Lap Kok | South China Morning Post
Pilots reveal death-defying ordeal as engines failed on approach to Chek Lap Kok | South China Morning Post
04-21-2014, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
The ONLY reason for whiteslipping under 117 is to make a GS green.
Or maybe people have a terrible home life and want to stay on the road?
Or maybe people have a terrible home life and want to stay on the road?
Best check I write each month is too my Ex.
04-21-2014, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 12W20
I waited until I woke up (this as in March). 5 hours prior to report, the trip was taken off my line and I was given a PD. Since then I have acknowledged. I can't afford to have my pay taken via PDs every time!
04-21-2014, 07:56 AM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2010
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Flamer,
Yes I am. I don't want to be, but are you going to pay my bills when I get PDs on every work day. If so, I will gladly stay home. I have "voluntarily" acknowledged with a gun to my head. Please show me an alternative!
Yes I am. I don't want to be, but are you going to pay my bills when I get PDs on every work day. If so, I will gladly stay home. I have "voluntarily" acknowledged with a gun to my head. Please show me an alternative!
04-21-2014, 08:26 AM
FlySmarterNotHarder
Joined APC: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
For the record, I do not like these 3 hour turns at outstations like EWR and ORD.
I just don't like them.
I just don't like them.
a long sit usually means a long duty day, pushing FAR117 limits. I,ve seen lots of 12:30+ scheduled days with a 13 hour max. Saw a 12:53 scheduled four leg domestic... very common. Pilots routinely accepting extended duty days only encourages this scheduling practice.
04-21-2014, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 12W20
Flamer,
Yes I am. I don't want to be, but are you going to pay my bills when I get PDs on every work day. If so, I will gladly stay home. I have "voluntarily" acknowledged with a gun to my head. Please show me an alternative!
Yes I am. I don't want to be, but are you going to pay my bills when I get PDs on every work day. If so, I will gladly stay home. I have "voluntarily" acknowledged with a gun to my head. Please show me an alternative!
04-21-2014, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by index
Unless you can post the data to support your claim, it is nothing but conjecture.
What the contract allows for is to be able to check your schedule, turn your phone OFF (and get some uninterrupted sleep), wake up, check your schedule, and then acknowledge a trip that signs in 3 hours from your wakeup. It's spelled out in the PWA and When Scheduling Calls. According to you, LC pilots should be tied to their phone 24/7 despite the unambiguous language to the contrary.
Your opinion about what a federal court would or would not do is just that-- an opinion.
Different issues. Different circumstances. It's hard to imagine what the irreparable harm would be in this situation. Or that there is a substantial likelihood that the company would prevail on the merits. But even if they did get an injunction, so what?
What the contract allows for is to be able to check your schedule, turn your phone OFF (and get some uninterrupted sleep), wake up, check your schedule, and then acknowledge a trip that signs in 3 hours from your wakeup. It's spelled out in the PWA and When Scheduling Calls. According to you, LC pilots should be tied to their phone 24/7 despite the unambiguous language to the contrary.
Your opinion about what a federal court would or would not do is just that-- an opinion.
Different issues. Different circumstances. It's hard to imagine what the irreparable harm would be in this situation. Or that there is a substantial likelihood that the company would prevail on the merits. But even if they did get an injunction, so what?
My "data" won't get publishing on an anonymous webboard, but a couple calls to my reps and the scheduling committee cleared it up for me.
If you're mad go see a therapist, if you're interested in negotiating a change to your working conditions then I suggest you leave the emotion at home.
04-21-2014, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
I would venture to guess they are filling up to the G/S trigger.
I don't know what life is like at the senior end of the list, but we junior folks are so unstacked upon that we could drop two trips and STILL be over the GS trigger.
04-21-2014, 09:41 AM
Wind the clock beoch
Joined APC: May 2012
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Originally Posted by shiznit
If you don't recognize the handicap that an injunction has on a labor union then you really should stop while you're only this far behind.
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