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Old 12-14-2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I think I recognize the name... and if I'm correct, he was an MD88 captain in nyc previously.
Which would lead one to possibly consider another explanation that may be part of the equation.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Love it!,........

Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.

Beer is on 80Knots next time!
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.

If you drop your whole schedule then wouldn't your first 72-75 hours of greenslip flying pay at straight pay?

Is it not true that only green-slip flying above the G/S trigger counts pays at 200%? Not counting the maximum 5 hours of bank that can be credited to the G/S trigger.

Why not just pick up G/S's above your initial schedule? Why use 4-5 greenslip awards just to get equal your initial line - this would put you at a 4-5 G/S disadvantage to other guys trying to pick up their first G/S's?

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Old 12-14-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
If you drop your whole schedule then wouldn't your first 72-75 hours of greenslip flying pay at straight pay?

Is it not true that only green-slip flying above the G/S trigger counts pays at 200%? Not counting the maximum 5 hours of bank that can be credited to the G/S trigger.

Why not just pick up G/S's above your initial schedule? Why use 4-5 greenslip awards just to get equal your initial line - this would put you at a 4-5 G/S disadvantage to other guys trying to pick up their first G/S's?

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True. The only reason I can understand to drop your schedule for G/S is if your awarded schedule is such that you're unlikely to get a G/S due to a FAR violation (days or hours). And even at that, you'd probably need to have special powers to predict which days are going to strain the system to a point that they'll even be offering G/S. Perhaps it depends on the category. New hires will likely be on the 717 and M88 with some not so good schedules. As such, they'll already be working weekends/holidays/bowl games, were G/S can somewhat be predicted. With respect to IROPS and the need for G/S, read the farmer's almanac or perhaps your horoscope.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:32 PM
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Go Navy. 12 years straight!
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Old 12-14-2013, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.
This doesn't make sense. The first 75 hours are at straight pay. If we're that short, how does he drop his whole schedule? Capped reserve days would deny him. When we were overstaffed, pilots would drop their whole schedule, then whiteslip weekday trips.
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Old 12-14-2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm not Mr. Sunshine or anything, but I'm surprised that it seems that some of you don't think this was as positive an AE. as I did.

-88 captains went as I expected. But, I was surprised to see 320 captain go to a guy just shy of 8000.

Is that not good?
The last 2-3 AE's have been largely positive. I just moved down 3 numbers next month on the 88B.......again. I know, I know, it's all good, I shouldn't have such high expectations as a 13 year FO.
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Old 12-14-2013, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
If you drop your whole schedule then wouldn't your first 72-75 hours of greenslip flying pay at straight pay?

Is it not true that only green-slip flying above the G/S trigger counts pays at 200%? Not counting the maximum 5 hours of bank that can be credited to the G/S trigger.

Why not just pick up G/S's above your initial schedule? Why use 4-5 greenslip awards just to get equal your initial line - this would put you at a 4-5 G/S disadvantage to other guys trying to pick up their first G/S's?

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When I was on the Mad Dog in Atl I flew with a check pilot that did this same thing. Bid for really good trips and then dropped or swapped them all away. He picked up green slips that were usually one leg out and then layo to a deadhead back to Atl. This way he would fill his month with twice as much credit as block time. Dude had it all figured out. Kudos to this guy for figuring a way to work the system. I'll be doing that whenever I get that senior!!!
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Old 12-14-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
This doesn't make sense. The first 75 hours are at straight pay. If we're that short, how does he drop his whole schedule? Capped reserve days would deny him. When we were overstaffed, pilots would drop their whole schedule, then whiteslip weekday trips.
see previous. 75 credit but only 37.5 of block!! What a genius!
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