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Old 12-14-2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
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I think a first time Captain bid is a freebie on any aircraft. Can anyone confirm- no seat lock for first CAPT bid?


Disregard - I think from Scambos post above the answer is no seat lock for first CAPT bid.


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Originally Posted by flyallnite
First Capt bid breaks any current seat lock.
If you have not previously completed training for a mainline Captain position, you are eligible to get an AE to a Captain position even if you are currently under a category freeze. The remainder of your category freeze for your First Officer position will be added to the new 24 month category freeze for your Captain position. As an example, if a 765 B still had 12 months remaining on a category freeze, he could be awarded a first time captain bid and would incur a 36 month freeze as a result. Section 22 G.4.
Old 12-14-2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
First Capt bid breaks any current seat lock.
It kind of breaks the lock. You actually keep the lock and it is added to the lock for the seat you bid. If the Captains seat is a 2 year lock and you had 1 year to go on another lock you now have a 3 year lock.
Old 12-14-2013 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Delta back into Juneau in May. First time since what... 1995?
On the 73?
Old 12-14-2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
How much would you like to bid that at the end of the conversion window for this bid you have moved up in relative position not down? That is in spite of the fact that the first 150 pilots being brought on the line will be senior to you. After that there will be a bunch of new hires posted behind you. When your in the bottom category and the company is growing and hiring no one bids on below you normally. Those slots are filled by new hires.
I agree, my category will get a lot more below me soon. This bid, like the last one, did not fill the number of vacancies. It would be nice if something were to open up above in the right seat where QOL'ers would be tempted to go. Until then, they stay put and more come in above me during the AEs.
Old 12-14-2013 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
On the 73?
Yup. SEA-JUN starts end of May. The cold war is heating up...
Old 12-14-2013 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Yup. SEA-JUN starts end of May. The cold war is heating up...
Love it!,........
Old 12-14-2013 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I think I recognize the name... and if I'm correct, he was an MD88 captain in nyc previously.
Which would lead one to possibly consider another explanation that may be part of the equation.
Old 12-14-2013 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Love it!,........

Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.
Old 12-14-2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.

Beer is on 80Knots next time!
Old 12-14-2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.

If you drop your whole schedule then wouldn't your first 72-75 hours of greenslip flying pay at straight pay?

Is it not true that only green-slip flying above the G/S trigger counts pays at 200%? Not counting the maximum 5 hours of bank that can be credited to the G/S trigger.

Why not just pick up G/S's above your initial schedule? Why use 4-5 greenslip awards just to get equal your initial line - this would put you at a 4-5 G/S disadvantage to other guys trying to pick up their first G/S's?

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