Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
In other news: 2013 Army - Navy Game today at 3pm.
Go Army, beat Navy! Please! It's been 11 years......
Go Army, beat Navy! Please! It's been 11 years......
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From: Permanently scarred
And I fell back 9 places in the most junior category. Glad others are advancing. I know...some day....someday.
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From: Taxi Driver
Sailing, it appears that you feel the need to be the polar opposite of the anti ALPA crowd on here, and that's fine, but you keep touting 300 plus new captain positions. How many of those are guys that were captains before but ended up being displaced as the company shrunk? I'm glad things are turning around, but the truth is this place has been unbelievably stagnant for more than a decade, and our contract clearly gives the company staffing flexibility that they didn't have before. It would be naive to think that they put in the ability to fly reserves more and changed the so called shoulder months just for the hell of it. Trying to figure out the reality around here can be difficult; we seem to have a pilot group that emulates congress with the polarization surrounding ALPA.
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How much would you like to bid that at the end of the conversion window for this bid you have moved up in relative position not down? That is in spite of the fact that the first 150 pilots being brought on the line will be senior to you. After that there will be a bunch of new hires posted behind you. When your in the bottom category and the company is growing and hiring no one bids on below you normally. Those slots are filled by new hires.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-14-2013 at 10:47 AM.
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Sailing, it appears that you feel the need to be the polar opposite of the anti ALPA crowd on here, and that's fine, but you keep touting 300 plus new captain positions. How many of those are guys that were captains before but ended up being displaced as the company shrunk? I'm glad things are turning around, but the truth is this place has been unbelievably stagnant for more than a decade, and our contract clearly gives the company staffing flexibility that they didn't have before. It would be naive to think that they put in the ability to fly reserves more and changed the so called shoulder months just for the hell of it. Trying to figure out the reality around here can be difficult; we seem to have a pilot group that emulates congress with the polarization surrounding ALPA.
System block hours are very close to what they were when the contract was signed. They are just now starting to ramp up as we shift flying from DCI to the mainline with the new jets that starting arriving in Oct. Again if we lost jobs there would have been a large decrease in Captains positions and resulting displacements. That has not happened. In fact the opposite has happened. We are adding Captains jobs rapidly. Why if we had a massive job loss?
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
How much would you like to bid that at the end of the conversion window for this bid you have moved up in relative position not down? That is in spite of the fact that the first 150 pilots being brought on the line will be senior to you. After that there will be a bunch of new hires posted behind you. When your in the bottom category and the company is growing and hiring no one bids on below you normally. Those slots are filled by new hires.
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Sailing, it appears that you feel the need to be the polar opposite of the anti ALPA crowd on here, and that's fine, but you keep touting 300 plus new captain positions. How many of those are guys that were captains before but ended up being displaced as the company shrunk? I'm glad things are turning around, but the truth is this place has been unbelievably stagnant for more than a decade, and our contract clearly gives the company staffing flexibility that they didn't have before. It would be naive to think that they put in the ability to fly reserves more and changed the so called shoulder months just for the hell of it. Trying to figure out the reality around here can be difficult; we seem to have a pilot group that emulates congress with the polarization surrounding ALPA.
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From: Taxi Driver
Thanks, acl. That's what we need to start seeing movement for the bottom quarter of us who've been around for 13-16 years and haven't moved much.
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