Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Sailing,
If you're going to project our increased compensation, to be fair I think it would also be reasonable to include a projection for our increased productivity... ALV+15 comes to mind.
I'm also curious how you calculated the value of pension benefits.
Just curious. Thank you for the informative post.
If you're going to project our increased compensation, to be fair I think it would also be reasonable to include a projection for our increased productivity... ALV+15 comes to mind.
I'm also curious how you calculated the value of pension benefits.
Just curious. Thank you for the informative post.
And yet even then, at the end of our current book, they will still make $1 more than us on like equipment*?
*Considering that what…95% of their fleet is -700's while less than 10% (and falling every day) comprises ours.
I didn't hear him say that it was due to high payments. He DID say we are going to reconfigure them to get a little better revenue out of them, but he did not tie that to payments for the jets.
Its being mandated by the airport authority. Its 5 to 6 minutes on the train to Federal station. You save time by the shorter drive distance in the van. In traffic it might in fact be faster. If however you come into terminal 2 where there is no train stop it becomes a real issue. Terminal 4 its not even a real inconvenience.
Personally, I hope the architecture firm that did T4 has been fired, never to be seen again on the premises. I could have had the 5th year architecture students at UT do a project on this and come out with a much better result. I find it amazing that to get outside the airport one has to walk almost completely to the other finger, and the signage there is abhorrent.
Sailingfun's data is only block hours.
It doesn't count credit time, vacation time, sick leave, training, or green slip pay, all of which are built into the 87 number.
If the typical guy has 5 hrs of credit a month, 120 hours of sick leave annually, 100 hours of vacation time annually, 10 hours of CQ annually and 80 hours of initial training every few years, that adds up to 25+ hours/month on average. Throw in a couple of green slips per year, and you're there.
It doesn't count credit time, vacation time, sick leave, training, or green slip pay, all of which are built into the 87 number.
If the typical guy has 5 hrs of credit a month, 120 hours of sick leave annually, 100 hours of vacation time annually, 10 hours of CQ annually and 80 hours of initial training every few years, that adds up to 25+ hours/month on average. Throw in a couple of green slips per year, and you're there.
A good friend of mine called in fatigued for a red-eye going home on the last day of the trip. They were doing construction outside the SFO hotel the whole day before the red-eye and he simply couldn't get any rest that day before the flight. They simply deadheaded in a pilot from SLC, the flight left an hour or two late and he deadheaded home the next day. He was asked to write an ASAP or FCR, can't remember which and didn't hear anything from it.
Somebody with paint please create a concept- FTB?
I think the comments RE the 777 not making (enough) money were in reference to the /BE/Y mix of seats. DL is planning to pull out some BE seats and FC seats on domestic planes and replace them with coach, since they are not filling all the FC seats on most flights, save for 'free' upgrades. The 777 was specifically mentioned in this initiative. Sucks for non revving!!!
Last edited by flyallnite; 12-12-2013 at 07:46 AM. Reason: clarity
Your correct that would be a more accurate number however I could not find that data broken out. In general the wifebodies have less credit then the narrow bodies so that would reduce narrow body productivity at Delta slightly.
Another factor is training costs. They run about 10 percent of pilot costs at Delta. SW also has training costs but far less. Assuming SW is about 2 percent of their pilot costs then 8 percent of our cost disadvantage over SW is driven by management fleet choices.
Another factor is training costs. They run about 10 percent of pilot costs at Delta. SW also has training costs but far less. Assuming SW is about 2 percent of their pilot costs then 8 percent of our cost disadvantage over SW is driven by management fleet choices.
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I can only imagine too. How ****ing cheap and low rent Atlanta was. Somehow usair, swa, the fa's at delta, hell even the MSP chief pilots office found a way to do a hot buffett type setup. If it's not in the budget for the CPO, then alpa should use some of their budget. I doubt it would cost more than one evening in the hospitality suite.
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