Close 1530 and it's out!
40 ATLM88B's on the AE and only filled 9!! Guess furlough bypass and new hires will fill those...

Pathetic
 

West coast once again is anemic! DAS BOO ******!:mad::mad:


AE are nice if you can get one!!

Congrats to all the new Capt's! Incredible how junior the A320 went...

Lots of ER copilots vacated with no backfilling...

From my count only 6 FO's on the ER and 330 on the west coast moved with no backfill.
What west coast growth??:rolleyes:

It looks like nobody left the west coast except maybe a couple.

I'll do some math later tonight. At first glance looks like quite a few open narrobody positions. Nice to see MSP reinstatements as well.

4 LAX7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
2 SLC7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled
2 SEA7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
9 DTW7ERf/o left, not backfilled
3 DTW73Nf/o left, not backfilled
0 DTW320f/o change, same number in and out.
0 MSPm88f/o change, 6 in and 6 out.
8 MSP7ERf/o left, not backfilled.
0 MSP320f/o change, 13 out and 13 in.



All other LAX/SLC/SEA positions just traded 1 for 1, no increase or decrease.

Net loss of 8 west coast FO positions, widebody positions. That's 8 guys that didn't flow up from 73N, eight more that didn't flow there from 320/m88. So, that's 16 flowups that didn't happen out west. Again, lots of movement for for senior 7erf/o, nothing below (at least out west, I haven't had time to look at the totals for other bases).

For 73N, 320, M88, and 717 f/os, that's 23 7ERf/o positions that didn't get backfilled and 3 73n. Assuming those positions would have rippled from ER to 717, that's 92 f/o positions that should have existed and allowed junior fo's to finally move up... but which didn't happen because DESPITE THE CHEERLEADING, we are still shrinking faster than we are retiring or adding positions for new jets.

edit... DOH it gets worse!
19 NYC7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
7 NYC73Nf/o positions reduced (9 guys left, 2 backfilled)
2 NYCM88f/o positions reduced (4 guys left, 2 backfilled)
13 NYC320f/o positions reduced (16 guys left, 3 backfilled)
28 ATL7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled
0 change ATL73Nf/o
+15 positions ATL320f/o, (17 gained, 2 guys left)
1 ATLM88f/o position reduced, (9 gained, 10 guys left)
4 ATL717f/o positions reduced

That's 70 jobs, just in ERf/o positions lost, that DIDN'T get replaced, DIDN'T cause anyone below them to move up.
that's 10 73NB positions that disappeared, and didn't cause anyone below them to move up
etc
I WANT to be excited for hiring and capt spots on AEs.... but the proof is in the pudding, and once again there was no improvement

Here's the positive side of things, for those of you sick of hearing everyone hired after 1999 complain of stagnation... at least I didn't move BACKWARDS it appears! Yay, go me! ;)

Thanks George.

I checked and it was almost double the price.

TEN

You are correct. At the current rate, up grade for a 2001 hire on west coast is 2022-2023 to be the plug on the SLC73N or 320. Based on attrition through retirements, no growth and nobody moving out which clearly they are not.

It's slow for sure, but seeing as how we are adding 737's and A320's over the next few years, along with 330's and 717's, I'd think that number will come down significantly. There has always been a price at DL to be based out west, anybody thinking otherwise is kidding themselves.

That's exactly what that meant. But, you can best believe if something goes down, they will look at it. There is no right of privacy on company issued materials -- unless the union negotiates for it.