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Carl Spackler 12-14-2013 09:20 AM

In other news today, Iran claims to have successfully sent a monkey into space.


http://www.thedailyrash.com/wp-conte...nejadpeace.jpg


Achmadenijad said it was really cool, but he's happy to be back!

Carl

NERD 12-14-2013 09:31 AM

Where are the bid results????

GunshipGuy 12-14-2013 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1539277)
If we were shrinking faster then any growth there would be no hiring. We will hire 600 guys in the next year while we retire 150. Since the contract was signed we have increased the number of Captains by well over 300.
What I think you know is that we were overmanned by at least 800 FO's.


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1539283)
Why were we overmanned by 800?


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1539322)
Because 1 + 1 = ~1.5ish and we didn't furlough. JMHO:cool:

So, essentially shrinkage.:cool:

Amish Pilot 12-14-2013 09:47 AM

In other news: 2013 Army - Navy Game today at 3pm.

Go Army, beat Navy! Please! It's been 11 years......

GunshipGuy 12-14-2013 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1539354)
The December posting had 162 vacancies, the award resulted in 296 AEs, 0 MDs, 0 VDs and 7 reinstatements. This AE moved 303 pilots to categories they would rather have been in and 0 pilots to categories they would rather not be in.

And I fell back 9 places in the most junior category. Glad others are advancing. I know...some day....someday.

Spudhauler 12-14-2013 10:21 AM

Sailing, it appears that you feel the need to be the polar opposite of the anti ALPA crowd on here, and that's fine, but you keep touting 300 plus new captain positions. How many of those are guys that were captains before but ended up being displaced as the company shrunk? I'm glad things are turning around, but the truth is this place has been unbelievably stagnant for more than a decade, and our contract clearly gives the company staffing flexibility that they didn't have before. It would be naive to think that they put in the ability to fly reserves more and changed the so called shoulder months just for the hell of it. Trying to figure out the reality around here can be difficult; we seem to have a pilot group that emulates congress with the polarization surrounding ALPA.

sailingfun 12-14-2013 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1539686)
And I fell back 9 places in the most junior category. Glad others are advancing. I know...some day....someday.


How much would you like to bid that at the end of the conversion window for this bid you have moved up in relative position not down? That is in spite of the fact that the first 150 pilots being brought on the line will be senior to you. After that there will be a bunch of new hires posted behind you. When your in the bottom category and the company is growing and hiring no one bids on below you normally. Those slots are filled by new hires.

Bucking Bar 12-14-2013 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 39686)
And I fell back 9 places in the most junior category. Glad others are advancing. I know...some day....someday.

Ensure you check who might have come out of the category to build another position senior to you. I thought the same as you until looking and seeing that ...


sailingfun 12-14-2013 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Spudhauler (Post 1539700)
Sailing, it appears that you feel the need to be the polar opposite of the anti ALPA crowd on here, and that's fine, but you keep touting 300 plus new captain positions. How many of those are guys that were captains before but ended up being displaced as the company shrunk? I'm glad things are turning around, but the truth is this place has been unbelievably stagnant for more than a decade, and our contract clearly gives the company staffing flexibility that they didn't have before. It would be naive to think that they put in the ability to fly reserves more and changed the so called shoulder months just for the hell of it. Trying to figure out the reality around here can be difficult; we seem to have a pilot group that emulates congress with the polarization surrounding ALPA.

The contract gave the company staffing flexibility in some areas and took it away in others. In the end the net result was a loss of a small amount of jobs. Between 0 and 150 system wide depending on what numbers you want to use. This forum has posted that we gave up thousands of jobs in this contract. There is not one shred of evidence based on the bids and system block hours since the contract was signed that we lost any jobs. In fact last spring when I took a vacation from this forum it was posted on here that we would see furloughs in the fall because of all the jobs we gave up. Where are the furloughs? My category has the same number of block hours and same number of pilots pre and post contract. In fact we have actually added about 10 pilots. Again why would that be?
System block hours are very close to what they were when the contract was signed. They are just now starting to ramp up as we shift flying from DCI to the mainline with the new jets that starting arriving in Oct. Again if we lost jobs there would have been a large decrease in Captains positions and resulting displacements. That has not happened. In fact the opposite has happened. We are adding Captains jobs rapidly. Why if we had a massive job loss?

Bucking Bar 12-14-2013 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1539703)
How much would you like to bid that at the end of the conversion window for this bid you have moved up in relative position not down? That is in spite of the fact that the first 150 pilots being brought on the line will be senior to you. After that there will be a bunch of new hires posted behind you. When your in the bottom category and the company is growing and hiring no one bids on below you normally. Those slots are filled by new hires.

For some reason that reminds me of the evening I made dinner for the girlfriends parents. I was chopping Jalapeño peppers then forgot to wash my hands before I went to the bathroom. ....

It stings ... I can explain ... maybe best via PM.


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