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Old 01-15-2014 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
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Now that's a crock of BS! I believe the US General Services Admin. (per diem rates are out for 2014) now sets per diem rates domestically and the State Department does internationally. This from:







Publication 1542, Per Diem Rates

Effective for 2012 and later, the IRS will no longer be updating Publication 1542. Instead, current per diem rates may be found on the Per Diem Rates page at the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA) website.

Denny

Thus the reason I promptly told them to cancel my order and went with Pro Diem.....
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I simply go eat as needed between legs, it's not something I control.
True, true. I always offer to eat between legs, every time we change F/A's, I'll ask them as they are getting on our jet. 9 out of 10 times, you'll get your face slapped but that tenth time...you will eat well my friends.
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick
All this scheduling talk is making me horny.
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Wow...look at those B's, they are really getting Backdoored tonight!!
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
True, true. I always offer to eat between legs, every time we change F/A's, I'll ask them as they are getting on our jet. 9 out of 10 times, you'll get your face slapped but that tenth time...you will eat well my friends.
Timbo, you'd get in so much trouble at Aeroflot.



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Old 01-15-2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Wow...look at those B's, they are really getting Backdoored tonight!!
His eyes show perfectly that first moment when the backdoor no longer says Authentication Access Required and instead a PDF pops up. That face must be what I look like.

I can't imagine what my eyes look like when it works for my December bid award.
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bainite
Just worked a 12:15 duty day with 8:32 block yesterday. 4 legs and the longest turn was :45. Grabbed a juice and a protein bar during our concourse change through ATL. No crew meals.
Don't fly hungry bro. Stop and eat when you are hungry. Period.
Old 01-15-2014 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bainite
Just worked a 12:15 duty day with 8:32 block yesterday. 4 legs and the longest turn was :45. Grabbed a juice and a protein bar during our concourse change through ATL. No crew meals.
For me to grab food, stand in line and eat it while it is warm; it take a quick 20-35minutes (depending on the line). 4 legs with a protein bar
and juice? I will starve to death.

Originally Posted by gloopy
If planes fueled themselves they wouldn't be buying them gas either.
I know. Just like "why should we hire pilots?"

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
When I first came to Delta from TWA, I was surprised to find we didn't have crew meals. Then a couple of years after I got here, they started giving us crew meals. They said it was a safety issue. I guess it was a safety issue... until it wasn't.
+1

45 minute break on a multi leg, over 8hr flying day is not enough time to stand in line, purchase and inhale one's food.

Originally Posted by sailingfun
I simply go eat as needed between legs. If the flight ends up going late it's not something I control. The company will look at the number of late flights and decide when they want to board meals outside the contractual requirements.
Why is Delta setting us up for failure? I want my flights to be on time. I am a professional I dont want to **** off the passengers and FAs by being late because I am hungry. Plus doing this will make a name for yourself at the CPO office. I hate walking on to a loaded airplane, late, with a bag of fast food (real professional). By the time you get to eat your food it is cold, plus you have taken a nice delay thus ****ing off the FAs/CO/PAX. With the 117 rules, you will be pushing it also.


TEN
Old 01-15-2014 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Don't fly hungry bro. Stop and eat when you are hungry. Period.
When I was a fairly senior FO, flew YYR to DTW, turn was shortened due to MX, so just sucked it up and then flew to SLC. Still had to go to MSP, so I asked the Captain ( Long sleeve guy if you know what I am saying) if he wanted anything to eat as we were deplaning in SLC.

"You are gonna cut it pretty close aren't you?"

"I wasn't asking permission"

Fairly quiet flight home (left on time BTW). Told myself I would never be that guy.
Old 01-15-2014 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Why is Delta setting us up for failure? I want my flights to be on time. I am a professional I dont want to **** off the passengers and FAs by being late because I am hungry. Plus doing this will make a name for yourself at the CPO office. I hate walking on to a loaded airplane, late, with a bag of fast food (real professional). By the time you get to eat your food it is cold, plus you have taken a nice delay thus ****ing off the FAs/CO/PAX. With the 117 rules, you will be pushing it also.
TEN
^^^^^ As a professional Delta pilot, I strive to be the brand and embrace our customers. When I am forced (by the company) to haul ass down the jetway with a bag of unhealthy easy-to-come-by food product, it's embarrassing and I'm sure not what we want to be purveying to our customers. What's even worse, IMHO, is walking off the jet and see a fellow pilot scarfing a Big Mac at the gate in front of his soon-to-be passengers. That cannot instill a lot of warm fuzzies with the pax.

Certainly, if we're concerned about flight safety and projecting a professional image, the company can agree to a couple of crew meals (what, maybe $10 for two pilots?) and an additional five or ten minute turn time?
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