Spudhauler

Flamer, didn't they issue a letter stating that they told the company they expect the contract to be followed until such time as something can be negotiated? Thought it was pretty much status quo since our contract is a legally binding document.

TheManager

Yeah. One of several equipment managers hand it to him as he comes off the field.

So, perhaps we could have gate agents or flight attendants do the same

Best cure for no hats was one that one of my previous airlines employed. They saw you in the terminal with no hat, one arrived via UPS about five days later. Shipping and cost of hat deducted from your next pay check. After guys started getting quite a hat collection, they started wearing them.

Flamer

Yes, but I am asking more along the lines of education to the pilot group. There are a lot of reserve pilots that really don't understand the contract. The company will apply a lot of pressure to trick pilots into acknowledging early. Just wondering why DALPA didn't say "hey, all reserve pilots please do this _______"?

MrBojangles

I'm with you-the guys that don't understand it are going to be burned badly. I watched the FAR117 videos on the dalpa site and they just basically say what is in their documents..nothing in terms the average pilot will understand as it relates to the PWA. Really disappointing.

duder

Since when does the Detroit Lions use United as their charter company? Saw the 757-300 in MSP today and it was headed back to Detroit. Pretty sad this isn't on Delta.

Anyways....GO PACK GO!

Reroute

Check out the FAR 117 Resource Library link on the home page of the Delta pilot website. Lots of info including a webinar, Scheduling Alerts like Scheduling Alert 13-10-FAR 117 Fitness for Duty and Reserve Rules, FTDT Training Presentation, an FAR 117 Video, etc.

trlaketige

His "uniform" hat is a helmet.


Tr

Herkflyr

You aren't really grasping the crux of the question, and ALPA hasn't been as explicit as many of us would like.

Bottom line is this. We already know that the last day-off schedule check is gone as of Dec 31. If a pilot is on reserve Jan 1 he or she starts long call at midnight. Here is the central issue. Right now, contractually that pilot can remove himself from all contact with the company at midnight, so long as he checks his schedule NLT 0900, in a using a most-conservative assumption that exactly at midnight scheduling assigned a trip with a 1200 report--and contractually a reserve must acknowledge a trip assignment NLT 3 hours prior to report.

Steve Dickson is trying to decree by memo that that provision of the contract really doesn't apply any more due to FAR 117. ALPA certainly disagrees. So...what is a reserve who goes on long call at midnight on Jan 1 supposed to assume in terms of his contact obligation? Explicit and specific guidance would be welcome.

RockyBoy

It's always worked OK for me. This year I did the pre season sale to save 10 bucks and they have you download everything through October. Then when I'm done this month I download the Nov and Dec data. I'll be honest that it is kind of a cumbersome process to do it twice and get it all uploaded, but when it's done you get a nice report and you will have it in less than a day.

buzzpat

Hell yeah! Go Pack Go!

PS Cutler sucks.