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BoyFromSouth 01-24-2014 07:21 AM

It would have been nice to see a couple of CA/FO openings for the 330 or other wide bodies. Hopefully some senior FO's will finally upgrade.

daldude 01-24-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1565641)
JAN AE just came out. Vacancies in 765 A and B, SEA 7ER A and B, ATL 7ER B and the narrowbodies.

This is the most disturbing part of AE.

"The 7ER block hours will peak in July and decrease by 25 percent by the time we reach December 2014."

Currently 1493 7ER capt - 25% = 373 displacements
Currently 1791 7ER F/O - 25% = 447 displacements

YIKES

That is a lot of people bidding and displacing to lower paying jobs.

And yes we will have the 330 coming on property in 2015 but they will barely offset the the above reduction.

NuGuy 01-24-2014 07:26 AM

For comparason purposes, here's UALs January Bid:

Vacancy Summary:
Captains
ORD777CA 15
DCA777CA 20
SFO777CA 10
DCA756CA 5
EWR737CA 50
ORD737CA 10
DEN737CA 10
LAX737CA 10

First Officers
ORD777FO 10
DCA777FO 20
SFO777FO 20
DCA756FO 5
EWR76TFO 75

That's 45 top paying widebody captain seats, 85 narrowbody captain seats, and lots and lots of right seat movement.

Nu

daldude 01-24-2014 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth (Post 1565658)
It would have been nice to see a couple of CA/FO openings for the 330 or other wide bodies. Hopefully some senior FO's will finally upgrade.


With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.

RockyBoy 01-24-2014 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1565664)
With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.

But we are in the midst of a major "upguage" of the airline.

TOGA LK 01-24-2014 07:32 AM

It's always "next year" the retirements will kick in. Same old s--t, different day.

Herkflyr 01-24-2014 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1565660)
This is the most disturbing part of AE.

"The 7ER block hours will peak in July and decrease by 25 percent by the time we reach December 2014."

Currently 1493 7ER capt - 25% = 373 displacements
Currently 1791 7ER F/O - 25% = 447 displacements

YIKES

That is a lot of people bidding and displacing to lower paying jobs.

And yes we will have the 330 coming on property in 2015 but they will barely offset the the above reduction.

You are taking one number and running wildly with it. The statement was that December flying hours will be 25% less than the peak hours of mid-summer--not that the airline needed 25% fewer pilots in those categories!

I doubt that there are ANY displacements from the 7ER in December, and if there are any, they will be modest.

Herkflyr 01-24-2014 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1565664)
With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.

There will be zero captains displaced off the 7ER "beginning in August." Where do you get this stuff? If you are bound and determined to be depressed, no one can stop you.

NuGuy 01-24-2014 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1565673)
There will be zero captains displaced off the 7ER "beginning in August." Where do you get this stuff? If you are bound and determined to be depressed, no one can stop you.

If you're a dog that's been beaten it's whole life, it's natural for you to cringe when the owner walks in.

Nu

daldude 01-24-2014 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1565669)
But we are in the midst of a major "upguage" of the airline.

Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but the up-gauge is a result of the 50 seat RJs being replaced by larger RJ's and 717's.

I would say a reduction of 25% to the largest category in the company and a widebody category at that in a 6 month period will have a very dramatic effect on any progression for years to come.

Yes I new we are retiring 757's but this is the first I have heard of such a huge cut to the 7ER in such a short time.


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