Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1572574)

It's IS always the case, if you want it to be. Otherwise it is a violation of the PWA. 23.L.3:
A reserve pilot who is rerouted into a rotation that contains a break-in-duty at his base will be removed from such rotation upon such break-in-duty.

That doesn't keep them from giving you a hotel if they want to. But the remainder of the rotation must go through the open time ladder, they can't just keep you on it. Like sailing said.

Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 1572569)

I can tell you that this is definitely not always the case. I am flying a trip right this second where the captain (a reserve) was not released. He was giving an in domicile layover. They did give him a hotel though without any problems. Also, I was a reserve last month. Same deal. Flight cancelled, given an in domicile layover. Flew the rest of the rotation the next day. It was all one rotation. I understand they aren't supposed to do this but it happens regularly. Like I said, every time it has happened everyone got a hotel room regardless of reg or res status.

Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 1572584)

I absolutely understand what you are saying. All I'm saying is they aren't following this procedure correctly and they have been not following it two out of two in the last month.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1572618)

You have 90 days to resolve the issue. Call DALPA and ask for premium pay.

Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 1572584)

I absolutely understand what you are saying. All I'm saying is they aren't following this procedure correctly and they have been not following it two out of two in the last month.

Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1572579)

Three points:

1. According to vacation dept., since one can keep a vacation when changing category/position/base, vacation move-ups are much more rare... vacation slide appears the way to go.

2. Still prefer PERX (or similar) for their "bump-protection"... especially with the way Delta is able to manage seat inventory... you can miss the flight and apply all your money to any other future PERX vacation... many of the AI places will not allow you to cancel within 45 days!

3. I've had very poor results with the "experts" in DALPA scheds... (especially get the feel that C is still working for the company)... I know my contract well and on numerous occassions, have had to point out the exact paragraphs to the "expert", before he would pursue a resolution on my behalf... YMMV.

Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 1572584)

I absolutely understand what you are saying. All I'm saying is they aren't following this procedure correctly and they have been not following it two out of two in the last month.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1572486)

I had to sit and drink water for about an hour until I could provide the required sample size! Luckily my flt. home wasn't until 8. But I complained to them that they had 15 hours to notify us, and we didn't get the message until after engine shutdown, at 05:30!!??