Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-07-2014 | 04:38 PM
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What everyone else said. Just a quick recap:
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
02-07-2014 | 04:42 PM
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What everyone else said. Just a quick recap:
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
Fantastic information. Thanks for sharing
02-07-2014 | 04:43 PM
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From: DAL FO
Fellow dudes and dudettes…I know that it has been bantered around on here but would like some info, again. Looking at taking the wifey-pooh and three kiddos (14B, 11G, 8G) to a good all inclusive…preferably one that gives us a good deal. Going to look at PUJ and a few others. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, need to factor in non-reving….several flights a day would be nice…thanks in advance…DW
I've had really good luck with Puerto Rico - if you get out of San Juan it's fairly reasonable too. SJU is pretty convenient from ATL with plenty of flights, and lots of eZed backups (B6, FL/SWA, AA) when our flights fill up.
02-07-2014 | 04:46 PM
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Fellow dudes and dudettes…I know that it has been bantered around on here but would like some info, again. Looking at taking the wifey-pooh and three kiddos (14B, 11G, 8G) to a good all inclusive…preferably one that gives us a good deal. Going to look at PUJ and a few others. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, need to factor in non-reving….several flights a day would be nice…thanks in advance…DW
Called front desk and asked about Delta rate. She said $75 a night and $50 a day for whole family all inclusive. Sounded too good, so I asked her a couple of different ways.
Hope that helps.
02-07-2014 | 05:25 PM
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From: Permanently scarred
What everyone else said. Just a quick recap:
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
02-07-2014 | 05:30 PM
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From: Permanently scarred
Maybe crew accommodations is just giving the MadDog guys the NH hotel while all others get a nice AI.
02-07-2014 | 06:02 PM
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Dude the union was pushing BIG hiring push in the fall of 2012 during the C12 roadshows and in the lounges. It is a fact that it didn't happen the way they were selling it. The union can't make that promise but they certainly played the whole "I have inside information" inferring this.
I agree, they may not have said it specifically, but from what I remember, they were suggesting that if we ratify the contract, we would be hiring by the end of the year and everything would start moving upwards....oh and don't worry about the 3rd and 4th year 3% pay raises, another merger or the new FTDT regs are going to give us the leverage to negotiate a new contract WAY before those pay raises take effect.
I felt like a chump then, I felt like a chump Jan 1, 2014, and I will feel like a used prom date on Jan 1, 2015 when my date stops returning my calls.
We have been used, in the name of proactive engagement, and our phone calls are already being ignored. They are making billions and we have served our purpose through sacrifice...now we are going to have to fight, tooth and nail, for every future gains we achieve.
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02-07-2014 | 06:30 PM
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What everyone else said. Just a quick recap:
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
PB days in the bank can be used in the current calendar year with the concurrence of the pilot and the company -> basically if there is adequate RSV coverage (Required > Available) then you can place a PB day anywhere you want.
If you don't use your PB days by the end of the calendar year, they automatically become Supplemental vacation days, which you can attach to your awarded weeks during annual vacation bidding in January/February next year. The rules for these are the same as for VAC days that you buy from the Bank. This is the CHEAPEST way (for the company) for you to "redeem" your PB days, as they are worth the value of a vacation day (3:45.) There are a couple of reasons you might want to let them roll over, but generally it's best to use them in a month when you are a REG pilot.
To use a PB day, go to iCrew -> PCS -> Leave Requests -> Payback Days
As mentioned by several others, the most EXPENSIVE way (for the company) for you to "redeem" a PB day is to use it to drop a high value 1-day trip. You are then paid the value of that trip, but in no case would it be less than 5:15. A PCS ninja with some (good) seniority might be able to use a PB day to drop a dinner-and-a-movie trip worth 9-ish hours <--- Much better than letting it roll over as a VAC day.
Other nice uses for PB days are to break up RSV days of availability. A RSV ninja might be inclined to place a PB day on day 3 of 5 (for example) leaving him with a 2 on, 1 off, 2 on stretch where he makes himself less available for assignment to a trip, and will only get at the most a 2-day. This works really nicely in a fat category in a slow month. You can basically turn 1 PB day into a week off...This works the best when guys are ho-ing for 1 and 2-day WS's, leaving the RSV guy at home when he gets down below 3 days of availability <----This probably won't be happening much now that we've "right-sized" our staffing over the past year.
Similar to the above, RSV guys in international categories could use this to make themselves mostly unavailable by breaking their RSV days into chunks just short of the shortest trip that their category flies.
This is possible for RSV pilots because PCS doesn't require any of the usual buffers/days of availability requirements that other X-day movements do.
Each payback day for a RSV pilot is worth the pro-rated portion of the ALV so it's not as valuable as it would be for a REG pilot, but still better than letting it roll as a VAC day @ 3:45/PB.
Still others will save them for a month when they think rolling thunder might be a possibility. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but this might be the most valuable way to use a PB day, since it opens your schedule up to be available for GS's.
Lots of ways to play it. I generally refrain from pointing any of this stuff out if a guy is senior to me, so consider this my public service announcement for the year
02-08-2014 | 05:36 AM
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Looks like in the new Lego movie they used a senior flight attendant for inspiration for a character in the opening scene
02-08-2014 | 05:50 AM
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Everything is awesome. Everything is totally cool...
I think I enjoyed the movie more than most of the kids! Lol. Favorite Lego is the blue spaceman. I always built rockets.
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