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Old 02-28-2014 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So again, Delta decides to go all A350 on us and not take the 788s, are they not allowed to make such a change in say 2018 because they made an SEC filing in 2012 saying they had 787 commitments?

Or should I just actually read what Delta says in the 8-K you posted...
Of course they can change their business plan. As a publicly traded corporation they would announce such a change. Have you seen such an announcement? The only one I've seen is the announced addition of 10 A330s and 30 A321 to the growth projection from the 2012 plan. So far the aircraft are arriving as planned, the mainline fleet is growing as planned, as we reclaim flying from DCI as a result of our improved scope language, we are hiring, we have AE after AE with no surpluses, just advancement opportunities which hundreds of pilots are taking advantage of, including hundreds of new captain positions.
Old 02-28-2014 | 06:44 AM
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Old 02-28-2014 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
So the Company deliberately awarded pilots positions on the previous AE that won't even go to training until after summer, and now the current AE is going to award even more 7ER slots that wouldn't train until late fall?

They are going to waste usable line pilots that they really NEED on the narrowbody fleet now just to fill seats that they will empty before they even get online to generate revenue?

So are you saying the same Company that delayed hiring just to squeeze an extra million out of 2103 Q1 profit is going to waste hundreds of thousands (maybe a million?) just to displace?

That math doesn't work.
The AE that was just awarded was mostly reinstatements for the ER. They are using us for the summer in our former positions and then sending us back to whatever we got trained in from our displacement from last summer, so it won't cost the company much at all.

I wish it weren't true but it is. I was optimistic when I asked the question to SD/network because someday I would like to quit commuting, but got an answer that none of us want, but it is also what they said in the Crew Resources newsletter a couple months ago. They are doing "just in time" training right now (their words), where they have just enough people to do the ER schedule for the summer, but will then need those people back in the 73N/320, etc for the fall/winter schedule.
Old 02-28-2014 | 06:54 AM
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Of course they can change their business plan.
Old 02-28-2014 | 06:55 AM
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Where is the "operated by..." sticker?
Old 02-28-2014 | 06:58 AM
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Since we are talking about the A350. And my "I stepped through the attic into the hallway repair project" has come to a standstill, interesting article from Businessweek.

How Airbus Is Debugging the A350 - Businessweek
Old 02-28-2014 | 07:04 AM
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What happened to the 787 rumor, it was a good one with great growth potential!
Old 02-28-2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Ed,

I'm a little junior to you and on the 320 in SLC. On the 320 with your seniority you will get 5-day trips and they are next to impossible to dump or get rid of on the swap board. My lines consist of mostly 5-days or 30 hour layover 3 days. I attempt to do the same thing you are trying and have better luck bidding reserve then personal dropping reserve days than I do dumping the trips I get.
Thanks for the info RockyBoy. Are you able to routinely get rid of reserve days through personal drop? Would it be possible to drop 6 or 7 reserve days a month on the A320? Do you think I might have better luck on the 737?
Old 02-28-2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Are you serious????? SOPA SMAC fan are you? I understand sterile cockpit procedures but do you really think the Feds would care if you added a few info things to a PA? Like, "We're #4 for T/O, it's an hour and a half to XXX, we should be on time, it's clear and 70 degrees, since it's late, we won't bother you with any PA's. F/A's please prepare the cabin for T/O. Use a little judgment and common sense.........



I am confused about this whole sterile cockpit debate. Are people saying it is a violation of sterile cockpit if either Pilot makes a non-FOM PA while taxiing or only if the CAPT makes a non-FOM PA while taxiing?

The whole issue seems kind of silly to me. Obviously CAPTs shouldn't Ramble-On (Zeppelin!) while taxiing, but I don't think a few extra bits of info by the FO are a sterile cockpit violation.

If ground control asks us a question that does not have a pre-scripted answer in the FOM do we have to stop taxiing before answering?

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Old 02-28-2014 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
Thanks LeineLodge. I'm around 10,100 on the seniority list if anybody in Salt Lake has a similar seniority and is willing to let me know how easy it is to drop trips on what your seniority holds on the equipment you are on?
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Ed,

I'm a little junior to you and on the 320 in SLC. On the 320 with your seniority you will get 5-day trips and they are next to impossible to dump or get rid of on the swap board. My lines consist of mostly 5-days or 30 hour layover 3 days. I attempt to do the same thing you are trying and have better luck bidding reserve then personal dropping reserve days than I do dumping the trips I get.
Ed,
I'm senior to you on the 73, and try for similar goals. You would get almost all 4 days touching weekends and 3 day 30hr layos touching weekends. Since Sept, by the time the very first PCS run hits and you have a chance to drop, every single weekend has been "capped" for reserve, disallowing any drops.

Since last Sep, and reserves are only getting tighter, I have been mostly unable to drop anything. I sometimes CAN swap a trip for something 1 day shorter, so long as I still work both weekend days. At your seniority, you would be within a line or two of the reserves (unless guys above you bid reserve, which reduces in the summer), and there is also a good chance that your trips awarded would be 4day and 3day redeyes, non-commutable ending at like 0030, so really a 4 day getting paid as a 3 day... sorry, but that's what is at the bottom of the bidpack at that seniority. Very hard to give away, and you essentially can't drop ANYTHING that touches a weekend now due to increased productivity/reduced reserves.

LeineLodge's strategy is the correct one, but unfortunately you wouldn't be able to bid and get the kind of trips he's talking about. I know, I try every month and never get them.

Also, we've been moving backwards on all B cats in SLC for 2 years now, and any displacement off the ER will push guys out the bottom of 320 and 73. And, despite shiznit's and T's incorrect analysis, the company HAS said it will be reducing the ER once the summer is done (hoping to just not backfill, but will displace if needed)--I am expecting to just barely hang on in SLC at all. On 3Jun13, the AE displaced 100 ER FOs across the system, only 5 of which were at SLC... however, the west-coast ripple effect pushed the bottom 17 guys out of SLC on the 73 and 7 guys out the bottom of the 320.

As previously posted by someone, all of the "AE 7ER Widebody FO positions!!" on the last two AEs have been mostly reinstatements or NYC spots that no-one will take, for a total of 70 in Jan and 50 in Feb. That's 120, but some in Feb were unfilled from Jan; and some remained unfilled after Feb and so have flowed down again to the latest post. In all, we have not even backfilled/refilled the 100 displacements from 3Jun13. Guys that could have been reinstated were smart enough to think, "Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice shame on me!" and they actually read the company's AE announcements and projections, and did so without rosy-glasses and selective listening to a rainbow-bright future. Here's what the company posted on their last ER displacement, and prior to the re-build of the last two AEs:

"On the December 2013 AE, we did not backfill as
7ER First Officers bid off in order to avoid filling 7ER F/O positions that were not needed. Since the
December AE, we have received an updated summer plan and will add 50 7ER First Officer positions
on this AE. ATL will see 35 openings, SEA will see 10 and SLC will have five. The 7ER block hours will
peak in July and decrease by 25 percent by the time we reach December 2014. Once the summer
peak is complete, we will decrease our 7ER pilot count
."

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