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Old 02-27-2014 | 04:35 PM
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What is the latest with the 88 cockpit upgrades?
Old 02-27-2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What is the latest with the 88 cockpit upgrades?
I heard that the company who originally came up with the concept now can't do them for the price as quoted. Delta said too bad - that was our arraigned price, now the entire thing has stalled.

That's what I heard, so take it for what it's worth.

Old 02-27-2014 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What is the latest with the 88 cockpit upgrades?
I asked the same question on here about a month ago and the response was that it was on hold right now because the panels were not doing what the manufacturers were promising. Sounded like an indefinite hold for now.
Old 02-27-2014 | 04:49 PM
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Default Honest question.

Have been off line lately.

In trying to get up to speed on thumb drives, an envelope full of CQ CDs, and the 10 lb FedEx box full of shrink wrapped manuals with no binders ( really? after making an all time world revenue number? ) I have a 117 question.

Would making long call reserve an 18-24 hour call like some of the majors had in the 90's solve a lot of the companies issues?

Any word from around the camp fire about where negotiations are?
Old 02-27-2014 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Have been off line lately.

In trying to get up to speed on thumb drives, an envelope full of CQ CDs, and the 10 lb FedEx box full of shrink wrapped manuals with no binders ( really? after making an all time world revenue number? ) I have a 117 question.

Would making long call reserve an 18-24 hour call like some of the majors had in the 90's solve a lot of the companies issues?

Any word from around the camp fire about where negotiations are?
I heard from a good source that they were close to getting an agreement; possibly something by the end of the month, but here we are and I haven't seen anything. It could be making the rounds before something is officially announced, or they're not as close as they thought they were. It was also said that a package deal was what was being considered and our side didn't want to break up the package, whereas the other side was trying to get things piecemeal.
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
Well, thats good, but my point it, 800 is a pretty lofty number and given the historic accuracy of "predictions" by the powers that be, I don't give it much credence.
It's not a prediction, it's an SEC filing.
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The new number is around 835. The numbers have only improved over the last 18 months. We will be averaging about 5.5 new airframes a month over the next few years. Planned retirements can be found on Delta net from a company computer.
sailingfun, how many active pilots on the seniority list right now? How many do you see on the list by the end of 2014, 2015 and 2016 respectively?
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Displaced? Are YOU serious? Do you have any idea what 'hiring' means?

Of course the fact that we have zero control over growth is completely lost on you... apparently. I guess it's much more fun to be miserable and wallow in that misery on a public forum. Enjoy.
I asked about displacements on the ER after the summer at the ATL Profit Sharing/Pilot Meeting and was assured that there WILL be displacements. I wish it were not true because it will affect me (I am sure to be displaced after the summer after being reinstated in the last AE), but that is the word from on high. Take that for what it's worth before you bid to the ER in this AE, especially if you are junior.
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
sailingfun, how many active pilots on the seniority list right now? How many do you see on the list by the end of 2014, 2015 and 2016 respectively?
I don't know exactly how many are on the list now. We will however be adding just over 100 airframes over your time span so i would expect 1200 to 1400 additional pilots.
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HVYinRESERVE
I asked about displacements on the ER after the summer at the ATL Profit Sharing/Pilot Meeting and was assured that there WILL be displacements. I wish it were not true because it will affect me (I am sure to be displaced after the summer after being reinstated in the last AE), but that is the word from on high. Take that for what it's worth before you bid to the ER in this AE, especially if you are junior.
So the Company deliberately awarded pilots positions on the previous AE that won't even go to training until after summer, and now the current AE is going to award even more 7ER slots that wouldn't train until late fall?

They are going to waste usable line pilots that they really NEED on the narrowbody fleet now just to fill seats that they will empty before they even get online to generate revenue?

So are you saying the same Company that delayed hiring just to squeeze an extra million out of 2103 Q1 profit is going to waste hundreds of thousands (maybe a million?) just to displace?

That math doesn't work.
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