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Old 02-27-2014 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Displaced? Are YOU serious? Do you have any idea what 'hiring' means?

Of course the fact that we have zero control over growth is completely lost on you... apparently. I guess it's much more fun to be miserable and wallow in that misery on a public forum. Enjoy.
Do YOU Know what it means when we are parking 75/76s and getting 900s and 717s in return? That Msp and Slc 757 are toast. That those junior people will be displaced to smaller equipment.
We are picking a fight with Alaska! Great! How bout we pick a fight with Emirates and get some heavy lift on order! All Delta does is rely on our JV partners to fly heavies.
We need some movement at the top and that has nothing to do with being miserable.

Again now go back to reality and post some more naked pictures like you always do!
Old 02-27-2014 | 10:29 AM
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With all this displacement talk did you guys see that the AE is out with lots of ER vacancies. Even west coast!
Old 02-27-2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
I always just carry my bag on board, and there are tons of empty spots. Or there WERE. Now I'm not sure what will happen...

I can see delays while folks carry rollaboards on trying to fit them, but can't do so.
Exactly. I predict this will blow up in their faces.

But maybe it's a good thing. When they figure out just how badly the RJ experiment has failed, maybe they'll start getting rid of more of the stupid things and we'll get back most of the flying that was taken from us.
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Exactly. I predict this will blow up in their faces.

But maybe it's a good thing. When they figure out just how badly the RJ experiment has failed, maybe they'll start getting rid of more of the stupid things and we'll get back most of the flying that was taken from us.
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Old 02-27-2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
At least it is quiet at F260 though I'm guessing you can get a lot of directs?
Not really, too many MD90's in the way
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
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They did say on previous Crew Resources newsletters that the 7ER needed an increase for summer 14 flying only, and that it's needs would decrease again after the summer... and it's still being retired. In fact, there is a very great risk of being displaced off the ER FO position next fall. Please recall that displacements off the ER this past fall, WHILE we were hiring, caused massive trauma to junior FOs.
I don't think so - if you look at the conversion list for the Jan AE, many of the 7ER FOs that require training are training in Jul to convert in Aug. So they train in Jul, then do OE and TOE in Aug and Sept - to only get displaced? Even crew resources wouldn't do that.

I think it's more likely that either not as many 757s are going, or they are going slower combined with the possibility of upgrades to the 717 coming from the 7ER right seat.

And then to post all these vacancies today to the 7ER again - for a likely Sept or Oct conversion window? Just doesn't make sense that they would get displaced "in the fall".
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
Boog, according to Delta's SEC filing, Delta had 26 more mainline planes at the end of 2013 then they had at the end of 2012.
The filing last year showed around 800 mainline jets in 2017.
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The filing last year showed around 800 mainline jets in 2017.
That was the number before the Airbus order.
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc8co
Do YOU Know what it means when we are parking 75/76s and getting 900s and 717s in return? That Msp and Slc 757 are toast. That those junior people will be displaced to smaller equipment.
We are picking a fight with Alaska! Great! How bout we pick a fight with Emirates and get some heavy lift on order! All Delta does is rely on our JV partners to fly heavies.
We need some movement at the top and that has nothing to do with being miserable.

Again now go back to reality and post some more naked pictures like you always do!

How are you gonna get "buy/fly more heavies" written into the contract? I'll leave it up to you to think about the ramifications of the rest of what you just said.... but before I do, let me ax you a question: Do you have shiny jet syndrome, or do you want to be well paid with a great QOL? hint: what can we control IN our contract?
Old 02-27-2014 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That was the number before the Airbus order.
Yes it was, but it was the last SEC filing end state number and why I referenced it.
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