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Old 02-27-2014 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Sure you do.

They will make it back in upgrade, ability to move to where they want to be based (and not commute), and in a higher relative position on the seniority list.

You just don't want to concede it.
There are a TON of pilots that commute, and being bumped to a lower paying aircraft will not change that. Those thousands of us that live in Florida for example will not benefit in any way by your theory. higher relative position on a seniority list is not a panacea. Unless you live in base, you don't get Greenslips with any kind of regularity. So let's go to 1.5x over 80. that will be a job killer for sure, because guys are *****s as it is. Just imagine if they know they are gonna get premium pay over 80 hours. One benefit: reserve will ROCK at that point, except they will whittle the numbers down based on usage. Oh, and what is this upgrade that will be available for the junior captains on the 757?

You're right, I don't want to concede it, because your theory is wrong. 2.5% less is 2.5% less. There WILL be people that will be taking haircuts. Period. Trickle down economics.
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
TSquare,

Bid down to the 737. There is so much more to see down low. The smell of flowers, pine trees and freshly mowed grass.

In January, in the middle of winter, we had B/O numbers and were filed for 26,000. I could not believe it, so I hit the new VNAV button, went to the second screen, CRZ (why have one button push when you can have three?) page and yeeerp 26.3 was "optimal." Middle of winter mind you (and it does not know winds higher, so that was not it).

ATL-SFO with weather on the west coast requiring alternates ... b a r e l y.

... then the real insult, we had to slow down to let MD88's out of Salt Lake in front. Apparently when they boot the thing and have that Mach trim pole hitting the sunshade, they're faster than a -900.
Somebody told me recently that 100% of the -900s at (UAL???) have had tail strikes. Any truth to that? I loved the classic fluff. Got a lot of time in it. While I might wind up on the -73 again, I REALLY like the 757, and would like to stay there. I think I am climbing a burning rope, and my feet are very warm though.
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Somebody told me recently that 100% of the -900s at (UAL???) have had tail strikes. Any truth to that? I loved the classic fluff. Got a lot of time in it. While I might wind up on the -73 again, I REALLY like the 757, and would like to stay there. I think I am climbing a burning rope, and my feet are very warm though.
I've yet to see one of us hit the tail. In fact, it flares nicely and the speeds are very slightly less than the -800. I'm not volunteering to do flaps 15 landings in it, but it's pilot friendly and our training / LCA have done a good job raising appropriate levels of awareness.

But, the rampers will get one.

They started shouting the other day because they thought we were tipping in Miami.
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc8co
Major growth! Standby for Sailing to give this crap a positive spin
Let me see. 10 captain bids for YOU, and 90 widebody FO bids for those junior to you. Nothing for me. Yeah, you're right, it sucks.
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I've yet to see one of us hit the tail. In fact, it flares nicely and the speeds are very slightly less than the -800. I'm not volunteering to do flaps 15 landings in it, but it's pilot friendly and our training / LCA have done a good job raising appropriate levels of awareness.

But, the rampers will get one.

They started shouting the other day because they thought we were tipping in Miami.
Yeah (knock on wood). I honestly don't know anything about the -900 other than they must have the smallest lav in history. Everything I have heard is either second hand or conjecture. I sincerely hope we never have a tailstrike.

At least it is quiet at F260 though I'm guessing you can get a lot of directs?
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
TSquare,

Bid down to the 737. There is so much more to see down low. The smell of flowers, pine trees and freshly mowed grass. Watching female sunbathers and airplanes fly overhead making contrails. If you are nostalgic for your your initial training days, this is the thing to turn back the clock. I'm sure a DC-3 with half the wing blown off flies like a 737-900.

In January, in the middle of winter, we had B/O numbers and were filed for 26,000. I could not believe it, so I hit the new VNAV button, went to the second screen, CRZ (why have one button push when you can have three?) page and yeeerp 26.3 was "optimal." Middle of winter mind you (and it does not know winds higher, so that was not it).

ATL-SFO with weather on the west coast requiring alternates ... b a r e l y.

... then the real insult, we had to slow down to let MD88's out of Salt Lake in front. Apparently when they boot the thing and have that Mach trim pole hitting the sunshade, they're faster than a -900.

That joke about sitting in a dark closet for 5:29 with another man and a vacuum cleaner running is so spot on. And it is always 5:29. Another 60 seconds, but, NO FOOD FOR YOU!

I have yet for ATC to ask if we have had an engine failure, but we're constantly being asked to expedite climb (as if we weren't already thinking about throwing stuff overboard including ourselves).
Funny, but sad. I've heard the reason they are launching the 900ER's on the longer legs is due to the inseat entertainment, which is as good as anything I've seen. The seats aren't too uncomfortable either. Hopefully, as the 757's get retrofitted with new interiors, the -900's will take over the east coast stuff and ATL-Florida runs, where they belong. Otherwise, it's going to be a bumpy summer on those transcons! (And forget about non reving, load optimized)
Old 02-27-2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
Who here has said they think saying what number you are for takeoff is a violation? To the contrary, I have seen a number of posters state they excluded that type of statement, and that they are referring to the long drawn out types.
There have been numerous hard interpretations about using only the exact FOM verbage.

As soon as you make even the slightest exception to that, you admit that verbage isn't strictly limiting. The key, as with many things, is what's reasonable. There are many things you can say in that announcement beyond the script that would be completely reasonable.

I agree that its not a blank check to play morning FM talk radio DJ.
Old 02-27-2014 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Hopefully they remain growth.

I'm hearing a 787/350 fly off with a "large" order to whoever wins.

Given how sexy the 350 looks, how big it is, and the 787's propensity to catch on fire (with lord knows what other engineering deficiencies that haven't been "discovered" yet)... I'm hoping for the 350.
Ah, but will any of them be growth, or will the order just end up being a ER replacement fleet with less net AC needed for the same amount of lift since they are bigger?
Old 02-27-2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Thought airbus made these things so about anyone could be trained to fly them?
Especially the vastly, dramatically superior Brit aviators.
Old 02-27-2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Ah, but will any of them be growth, or will the order just end up being a ER replacement fleet with less net AC needed for the same amount of lift since they are bigger?
That certainly depends. On the economy, for one, and on us, as we approach the deadline for our out-of-compliance code share balance.
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