Noticed in the latest "Vectors" from ALPA that they are giving up on their useless "Blog" as the pilot bulletin board.


"On Monday we will transition back to an onsite moderated Committee Corner and Blog. The off site blog was not as user friendly nor as popular as we had hoped. You will be able to ask questions of Subject Matter Experts, and comment on our blogged articles. All comments will be pre-moderated."


I had never seen a more useless way to disseminate information and discuss items in a decade or more of regular internet use. But - it sounds like they aren't including the part where us pilots can discuss issues, just the Committee folks. Sure - we can comment and if it's pertinent they will let the posting through.

The idea that they would bump people out of the ER either a month or two after they convert or WHILE IN TRAINING just seems ludicrous. I don't know why some people on here aren't using common sense. I think they are expecting some widebody advancement and want to protect the ER from that motion.

If there are excess people on the -88 or other narrow bodies in the summer [which I doubt] why not just leave them there for a few months - they did that in the ER in the past. Easier to pay them to sit reserve to covert IROPS than push them through training twice where you're paying them ALV or whatever anyway. :rolleyes:

Y'all (not 80kts) sound like the chick in Ferris Bueller about what she heard at 31 Flavors last night...

Wrong, but awesome.

Isn't this mostly a reposting of unfilled positions from the last AE? If so, I would imagine that they want to see what goes unfilled again so that they can fill with new hires. This is actually better for scheduling because they don't have to take from another category to add to the ER. Also, a new hire who starts now will hit the line just in time for summer. If they have to displace in the fall, they will have the ability to displace the bottom guys to the 717 as more planes come on line.

Good for the company, but sucks for the new guy who spends half of his first year in training.

I agree it seems ludicrous. Except it happened to me twice in one year.

Displaced the month before training started. Train anyway, complete OE.
Reinstated month before displacement training. Train anyway, complete OE.
Return to be retrained on previous aircraft.

Wash-rinse-repeat. Just because it's stupid won't stop them.

Good point. Contractually, each vacancy posting must include all known vacancies, and a new hire pilot may only be placed into an unfilled vacancy. Therefore, any category into which the Company plans to hire must have had vacancies in the most recent posting.

I still want to know how furlough returnees were awarded LAX seats with ZERO of them being offered in AE's and ZERO awarded via entitlements.

Under 21 C. 8. a., a recalled pilot will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold). Presumably, these returnees were able to hold LAX seats and the Company was OK with them going there.

There's a caveat in there, that they first have to be offered to the rest of the group before being offered to returning pilots.

Which seat are you referring to. 7er or 73n?