Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1592056)

But, you can't do "...whatever makes you happy." The Vol 1 explains exactly what to say during the Before Takeoff PA.

"Notify the flight attendants to finalize preparations for takeoff with the following PA, “FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, PLEASE PREPARE THE CABIN FOR DEPARTURE.”"

I've been commuting for years on many different airlines and we are the ONLY airline to have pilots adding a bunch of extra stuff to this required PA. In my opinion, it is in violation of sterile cockpit and it is DEFINITELY in violation of our Vol 1 procedures. Leave the weather, ETA and other info for the gate or above 10,000 feet. For the record, I'm a South guy.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1592071)

So you actually think that adding "we're number 3 for takeoff" or "we have a wheels up time of 12 minutes from now" or some other relevant information that the FA's could really use, is, literally, an FAR violation?

I agree sometimes we have morning drive time DJ's on the mic, but taking, literally 3 seconds, to give the FA's useful real time information about the flight that they could use to make safety decisions and maintain their SA is somehow a violation? Come on, man.

If anything, its a safety hazzard or best case just intentionally poor CRM to not give such information.

Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1592047)

Roadkill about how far up the list are you? Is what you mention in your last paragraph something I might be able to pull off?

It's frustrating knowing we just gave more work rule concessions during the last contract after having already lost so much the previous decade. Is the pay we received really worth being forced to work more days or giving up flexibility to tailor our schedule based upon what our family might need. I certainly hope we reverse that trend during this next contract.

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1592056)

But, you can't do "...whatever makes you happy." The Vol 1 explains exactly what to say during the Before Takeoff PA.

"Notify the flight attendants to finalize preparations for takeoff with the following PA, “FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, PLEASE PREPARE THE CABIN FOR DEPARTURE.”"

I've been commuting for years on many different airlines and we are the ONLY airline to have pilots adding a bunch of extra stuff to this required PA. In my opinion, it is in violation of sterile cockpit and it is DEFINITELY in violation of our Vol 1 procedures. Leave the weather, ETA and other info for the gate or above 10,000 feet. For the record, I'm a South guy.

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1592056)

But, you can't do "...whatever makes you happy." The Vol 1 explains exactly what to say during the Before Takeoff PA.

"Notify the flight attendants to finalize preparations for takeoff with the following PA, “FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, PLEASE PREPARE THE CABIN FOR DEPARTURE.”"

I've been commuting for years on many different airlines and we are the ONLY airline to have pilots adding a bunch of extra stuff to this required PA. In my opinion, it is in violation of sterile cockpit and it is DEFINITELY in violation of our Vol 1 procedures. Leave the weather, ETA and other info for the gate or above 10,000 feet. For the record, I'm a South guy.

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1592099)

It's difficult to present valid data from the company that shows a cautionary approach to ER staffing and bidding junior ER B might be in order, if we can't post excerpts from the crew resources letters with their exact quotes.

What's the thoughts on replicating CR quotes here, which we get off the DeltaNet with it's "no replication" frontispiece? Does anyone know of an alternate source for the CR newsletters and bidpostings which would justify them being in public domain and not gotten via DeltaNet and it's general "don't copy/post" prohibition?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1592094)

We used to be the only airline that stood in the doorway and said goodbye to those that pay our salaries.

As to the rest... good grief.