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ROBO320 12-19-2013 05:59 PM

If your dumb enough to sell your vacation then you can suffer. Welcome to reserve. Have fun!


Well, I didn't have vacation to sell back nor would I have ever considered it. But the suffering is being felt by others...

Dash8widget 12-19-2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1543212)
There are many 4 days with less than 30 FAA Flight Duty Hours. Assuming one has a 30 hour layo, which many do, you can do 4 days back to back. OUCH!

Or 30 hours off in between trips. For example, I have a four day trip to end this month, followed by another four day trip to start next month. Neither trip has a 30 hour layover, but I do have just over 30 hours off in between (I get done early on day 4, and report in the afternoon on day 5). The good news is, on the first trip I am scheduled to fly with a LCA - it's already tagged for OE.

iceman49 12-19-2013 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1543200)
89 pilots sold their vacations. Absolutely disgusting. I'm ashamed of them.

Pull up the ladder!:mad:

ROBO320 12-19-2013 06:53 PM

The 320/319 fleet consists of 126 aircraft. Imagine if Delta, for some reason, were to offer vacation buy back to everyone? A former airline that I'm familiar with used this type of stuff as a staffing tool. Now Delta knows what kind of result they might expect.

buzzpat 12-19-2013 06:56 PM

My schedule for Jan is weird. I fly multiple back to back trips, 14 of the first 16 days, and then off the rest of the month. ***!

contrails 12-19-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1543260)
My schedule for Jan is weird. I fly multiple back to back trips, 14 of the first 16 days, and then off the rest of the month. ***!

The complex new rules that are unable to be checked with simple mental math are that way for a reason -- the schedule you received ensures you will not be fatigued nor burned out. :eek:

newKnow 12-19-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by ROBO320 (Post 1543180)
I'm trying to wrap my brain around our current and future reserve obligations. I'm just about 9 weeks from starting my 28 th year and find myself on reserve in January in ATL on the 320. I REALLY don't like reserve but here I am. Here is why. Delta offered all 320. Captains that had January vacation to sell it back to the company. Apparently to cover 717 trips and charter ops with the new FARs.

System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71

That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes:mad:

Selling your vacation back so you can fly more with less restrictions? Really? Didn't those guys make enough money last year?

newKnow 12-19-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by ROBO320 (Post 1543214)
Well, I didn't have vacation to sell back nor would I have ever considered it. But the suffering is being felt by others...

ROB,

All I can tell you is it's only a month. If they are short, it will be a hectic month, but a least it's only a month.

buzzpat 12-19-2013 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1543263)
The complex new rules that are unable to be checked with simple mental math are that way for a reason -- the schedule you received ensures you will not be fatigued nor burned out. :eek:

No kidding. As someone else adroitly commented, this is the FAA's version of Obamacare. Intended to care for you but, ultimately, makes it all for the worse. I can't see how I'll be less fatigued until my schedule is complete. Then, when I'd like to fly, I can't. I'll be timed out and can't pick up anything. Stupid and no value or real rest added. Our govt is out of control.

ROBO320 12-19-2013 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1543278)
ROB,

All I can tell you is it's only a month. If they are short, it will be a hectic month, but a least it's only a month.

Other than trips that are currently open the first several days in January in ATL, there is virtually nothing available. After well over 27 years of service I certainly didn't expect to be on reserve even one month. Especially on a narrow body.

BTW. I start 13 out of 16 days tomorrow. That's standard stuff in ATL


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