Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1543525)

So you want to go back to work rules and scope we had before? mmmmmmkay. :confused:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1543582)

Originally Posted by Flying Monkey (Post 1543564)

1359 is block in.

My understanding after speaking with mec sched is that you can be sched for UP to 168 fdp without 30 hour rest. I'm at 144 and change, so supposed to be good. Still seems like big step backward.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1543646)

Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1543605)

This was mentioned a few pages back so I took another look at 117.25 (b):
Before beginning any reserve or flight duty period a flightcrew member must be given at least 30 consecutive hours free from all duty in any 168 consecutive hour period.

The 30 in 168 needs to be met BEFORE starting a FDP. It is not a look back at the end of the trip. So I need to amend my hypothetical trip -

Day 1: report 1900, 5 hour FDP, 14 hour layover
Day 2: 10 hour FDP, 14 hour layover
Day 3: 10 hour FDP, 14 hour layover
Day 4: 10 hour FDP, 14 hour layover
Day 5: 10 hour FDP, 14 hour layover
Day 6: 10 hour FDP, 13 hour layover
Day 7: 5 hour FDP. Block in at 1800

When you report for the day 7 flying at 1300 you still have had 30 hours off in the previous 168. At block in on day 7 you will not have had 30 hours of rest in the previous 168 but that's ok since you had met the required rest PRIOR to starting the day 7 FD
This might be the answer to Monkeys question - as long as he had 30 off in 168 PRIOR to REPORTING for his last FDP he should be legal.

- Leine beat me to it :)

Originally Posted by Flying Monkey (Post 1543682)

But is it 30 cumulative Hours or consecutive. If I look back at the end of that rotation and add 30 rest consecutive rest period, its 177 hours....over the 168. I know I must be making this more complicated than it is. Missing something.

Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1543694)

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Merry Christmas

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1543525)

So you want to go back to work rules and scope we had before? mmmmmmkay. :confused:

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1543747)

I know allowing 70 more 76 seat jets was a "victory".

And it would be a step backwards to have trips missed for vacation and 44 days of vacation.

Or our old training pay

Or seniority list instructors instead of giving away countless jobs to DGS.

I could go on and on and on but you can't fix stupid.