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newKnow 12-19-2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by ROBO320 (Post 1543294)
Other than trips that are currently open the first several days in January in ATL, there is virtually nothing available. After well over 27 years of service I certainly didn't expect to be on reserve even one month. Especially on a narrow body.

BTW. I start 13 out of 16 days tomorrow. That's standard stuff in ATL

So, you got reserve for December and January?

sinca3 12-19-2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1542791)
We should be pushing for higher trip rigs. If they want us to cool our heels in a hotel because of 117, fine. Pay me. 14 days off should equate to 85 hours a month, not 72. I think with the leverage we have now, we should apply pressure to increase the pay per duty period, not **** it away on some commuter friendly reserve scheme.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ and fix reroute rules. Too much leeway for the company on rerouted and I'm tired of getting home hours or days after originally scheduled.

ROBO320 12-19-2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1543300)
So, you got reserve for December and January?

Nope. 4 day followed by 2 off then 4 day with one off then five day. 3 day rotations with 30 hour sits have strung together for 9 straight days so many times I can't remember.

The last time I was on reserve on this equipment was when I first checked out on it in 2002

crewdawg52 12-20-2013 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 1543194)
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated

This is why we will never recapture anything meaningful as a pilot group. Look how easy it is for the company to get pilots to sell their negotiated vacation for short term bucks. Sad.

First, that vacation is theirs to decide what to do with it, not yours.

Second, If they had no plans, why not make a few extra $ and pay off/ down some bills.


Now, did I personally sell any back, no. Was I offered, no. Smart for others to? Who knows, not in their shoes and none of my business.

The point is it's my vacation and I will do what I want with it, and I dont want or need anyone telling me what I can or cant do.

TOGA LK 12-20-2013 03:54 AM

If you voted for Contract 2012 and now have buyers remorse...

crewdawg52 12-20-2013 04:16 AM

And you are referring to whom?

RonRicco 12-20-2013 04:17 AM

Although I wish we did not have vacation sell back, if you are going to go after a pilot for exercising contractual rights to make extra cash, you better be pure of heart. The same case could be made for any pilot that flies over 75 hours, picks up a green slip, flies over what the pick up would be in a non vacation month etc... Any of those help the company in the same way.

Timbo 12-20-2013 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1542942)
Timbo, put it on the swap board as pick up do not contact. Someone is bound to take it.

Thanks for the reminder Dalad. I did that late last night after I got home from Christmas shopping and the trip was gone this morning, leaving me with a 57hr. month!

But now it's 8:42am and they haven't run the PCS for Jan yet?

I thought the next mo. runs start at 0700 on the 20th?

Hmmmm....:rolleyes:

Jay5150 12-20-2013 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1543442)
Thanks for the reminder Dalad. I did that late last night after I got home from Christmas shopping and the trip was gone this morning, leaving me with a 57hr. month!

But now it's 8:42am and they haven't run the PCS for Jan yet?

I thought the next mo. runs start at 0700 on the 20th?

Hmmmm....:rolleyes:


Too lazy to look, but I believe the very first one (the one on the 20th) starts later in the day, and then from that point on they start at 0700. Might be remembering that wrong.

ROBO320 12-20-2013 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1543432)
Although I wish we did not have vacation sell back, if you are going to go after a pilot for exercising contractual rights to make extra cash, you better be pure of heart. The same case could be made for any pilot that flies over 75 hours, picks up a green slip, flies over what the pick up would be in a non vacation month etc... Any of those help the company in the same way.


To be clear, I'm not going after ANY pilot that is exercising his/her contractual right. Just trying to express some frustration with being forced to reserve in a category that I had no expectation of reserve. Almost 40 percent of us. Also, lets be clear this wasn't truly optional. I was informed that none of the buy backs were inversely forced but would haves if necessary. Just hoping this doesn't become a more common staffing tool.


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