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PilotFrog 12-07-2013 06:52 PM

I see the company calling multiple times prior to the 10hr cutoff to try and get people to acknowledge.
As to 12 noon being the earliest on call I don't think the company can ignore that provision, that is a FAR and restrictive compared to the contract so no matter what we get that.

newKnow 12-07-2013 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1535234)
+1
I'm sure I'm missing something here, but even with the requirement to acknowledge an assignment within 2 hours, isn't the long call out still 12 hours for long call pilots.

If a trip pops up in the middle of the night won't scheduling just assign it to a short call pilot scheduled on the that day instead of waking up a long call pilot in the middle of the night?

Agains, still digesting it all, but it don't see many changes from our current PWA.

So far, since the merger, they way things normally go for me is I read something and am 100% sure of its meaning, then get told later on that I was totally wrong. ;)

newKnow 12-07-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by CAAC ATP (Post 1535236)
I was thinking the same thing, but awaiting confirmation as I doubt my comprehension. Still trying to digest that email after reading it three times.

Ha. That's exactly how I feel. :D

FmrFreightDog 12-07-2013 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1535290)
Here is your long call obligation. Section 23.S.6

6. A long call pilot who is assigned a rotation or converted to short call:
a. prior to release from a rotation, must acknowledge such assignment or conversion
prior to release.
b. via telephone contact or electronic placement on his schedule on his last non-fly day
(other than a vacation day) before an on-call day, must acknowledge such assignment
or conversion no later than:
1) three hours before the scheduled report of the rotation, or
2) one hour before the scheduled start of the short call period.

Yep. I'm well aware of that, as are you apparently. What about the other 11,000 of us? I would expect my union to highlight exactly what you just posted in an email to the entire pilot group AT A MINIMUM....

In a perfect world that would have come out a few hours after the Flight Ops memo. In the real world of union and management collusion and a generally disengaged pilot group, I anticipate yet another concessionary LOA in short order.

I no longer have any faith in our MEC to actually look out for our best interests.

daldude 12-07-2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1535312)
Yep. I'm well aware of that, as are you apparently. What about the other 11,000 of us? I would expect my union to highlight exactly what you just posted in an email to the entire pilot group AT A MINIMUM....

In a perfect world that would have come out a few hours after the Flight Ops memo. In the real world of union and management collusion and a generally disengaged pilot group, I anticipate yet another concessionary LOA in short order.

I no longer have any faith in our MEC to actually look out for our best interests.

I agree, I called my rep this morning and we discussed an immediate message from DALPA regarding this issue. While I understand that they probably can not denounce the new policy today. I would have expected an email expressing their concern and the outcry by the membership. I am also disappointed that there has been nothing from DALPA.

I would have at least thought ACL would have said we are aware and are addressing the issue.

fisherpilot 12-07-2013 07:47 PM

80 and FtB might just get their wish for a national championship game. Keep it civil gents. Maybe we should start by a cheerleader comparison :)

newKnow 12-07-2013 07:49 PM

I hear the FTB party starting all the way from here. :D

newKnow 12-07-2013 07:54 PM

Congrats FTB and 80knots! This place will be off the hook for the next month! :D

forgot to bid 12-07-2013 07:55 PM

I'm already trash texting 80.

fisherpilot 12-07-2013 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1535329)
I'm already trash texting 80.

Nice!!!!!!!!!


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