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Give him his celebration. When our union actually stands up to the company to abide by a part of the contract without negotiating an alternative solution that's a victory. Kind of like when I expect kudos from my captain for putting the gear handle in the down position.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1531450)

You mean like stopping "Good Faith" calls? Or getting guys their jobs back? Or getting guys $$$ when their contractual rights are violated?

You forgot to mention Asia-Pacific Scope requirements and how our union enforced that part of the PWA without negotiating....errrrr...never mind.

johnso29

12-02-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1531480)

I must of missed that DALPA humblebrag telling me the company is no longer allowed to make "Good Faith" calls.

You're correct. I worded my sentence poorly. The better way to state it was "dramatically reducing good faith calls." I notice you didn't address the other examples of contract enforcement that I provided. ;)

Timbo

12-02-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1531397)

I'll play devil's advocate Timbo (and I average one GS every four years). As a commuter, don't you spend more time away from family just to support the commute than many in-base guys do who fly the occasional GS?

I'm not criticizing commuting (I used to myself and may again)--only that there are gray areas everywhere.

I've never done the math on it, takes me about 5 hours from my front door to sign in at the ATL. That's 10 hours round trip, two-three times per moth, I guess you could say commuting 'costs' me 30 hours per month, which, if I lived in Peachtree City, might get me a greenie once in a while.

When they closed BOS and MIA, I wanted to move to the ATL so I wouldn't have to commute, but my WIFE wanted to move nearer to her family in Florida, so her mom could help her raise our 4 kids when I was on trips.

So, you could say, the very reason I commute is so my wife can spend more time with HER family. That keeps her happy, and as every married guy knows, if Mamma ain't happy, NOBODY's happy!

It's a benefit to me, that I can sail year round down here, that was the real selling point for me being a commuter. :D

johnso29

12-02-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1531485)

You forgot to mention Asia-Pacific Scope requirements and how our union enforced that part of the PWA without negotiating....errrrr...never mind.

You mean like capitalizing on an opportunity to increase our Asia-Pacific scope? You're right. They did do that. They improved on what we previously had.

GunshipGuy

12-02-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1531487)

So the calls I wasn't getting before are still not coming my way. Thank you DALPA! Again, a high goal set and achieved--keep up the outstanding work.

As to your other examples they were so specific you left me completely unarmed. :)

GunshipGuy

12-02-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1531491)

You mean like capitalizing on an opportunity to increase our Asia-Pacific scope? You're right. They did do that. They improved on what we previously had.

They could negotiate lower pay for you in 2016 in return for only a 50% cut in profit sharing and you'd call it an improvement.

Doug Masters

12-02-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1531348)

My understanding is the category for the MD-88 guys was so low they are putting pilots who bid the 88 onto the category list even though they have not gotten their training yet. So the category is technically staffed to min level required, but the real-world (can actually be on reserve or hold a line) staffing is not. The new 88 pilots are out of their old category and are getting paid to wait around for their training.

So using that rational if the company is out of compliance wrt mainline jets vs RJs could they just add mainline jets "on paper" and be in compliance? Follow my logic here? Just don't wanna go down the slippery slope of allowing them to move phantom numbers around to meet the PWA requirements. Make sense?

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