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80ktsClamp 11-15-2013 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1520810)
I was bracing for PAIN, but I scored. :)

Me too! Holy crap I gotta remember to slip a Benjamin in the USB port before each bid from now on....

From not holding Christmas off on rsv last year to holding it off as a lineholder this year, talk about a big change (without much of a change in seniority strangely enough).

Boomer 11-15-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1520761)



freaking show-off. :D

Probably not what you expected to find when you Googled "crazy hot flexible split volvo video", but still cool. :p

http://acidcow.com/pics/20110815/cra..._chicks_01.jpg

Justdoinmyjob 11-15-2013 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520772)
That's your opinion of what the testing was targeting. I actually happen to know better.

So how do you go from working in Delta HR to being a 747 driver? Because if you aren't actually an HR rep, or on the hiring group, than all you got going is your opinion. And you really don't like it when people don't toe the line with your opinion do you?

Denny Crane 11-15-2013 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520805)
OK, I think I got you now. He didn't say that high 80 percentages were required for unity. He was just lamenting ALPA's targeting of 50%+1 as not reaching far enough for restoration. 50%+1 is technically defined as a majority...not unity.

I think he's right in the desire to shoot for much higher passage numbers. It would not only show we've reached for more, but would unarguably show unity. Our MEC chairman was just recalled on a 10-9 vote. It was a majority, but nobody could call our current MEC unified.

Carl

Correct, he did not say that but I got the distinct impression that he would like to see it as a requirement for a memrat vote. You know 80%+ would be next to impossible to get. I would love to see 100% of guys vote for a contract. But I'm not for increasing the percentage required for passage. If that was done, it would subvert the will of the majority. The majority is the majority no matter how small it is.

Aren't you contradicting yourself a little here? In your first paragraph you say 50%+1 is a majority but not unity. In the second paragraph you say a greater majority would show unity. I believe they both show unity. Now, if you wanted to say a greater majority shows more unity than a smaller majority, I will agree with that.

Denny

RockyBoy 11-15-2013 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1520896)
Me too! Holy crap I gotta remember to slip a Benjamin in the USB port before each bid from now on....

From not holding Christmas off on rsv last year to holding it off as a lineholder this year, talk about a big change (without much of a change in seniority strangely enough).

Head out West....First Christmas I've worked in 4 years. Nothing but backwards on this side of the country.

GunshipGuy 11-15-2013 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520724)

So I'll say again, it still surprises me that there are such a high percentage of tsquares among fDAL pilots. It's a culture I just don't understand. I know I'm not alone. It's probably the non-union culture at Delta coming through whereby the only union that can survive here is a union that only pretends to be a union.

Carl

Carl, you kind of hit the nail on the head for me...as a fDAL guy I came in having been anti-union in mindset since birth. But during my first two weeks on property we go over to the DALPA building during indoc and we get the big warm welcome (which was nice), plied with alcohol and food, and oh, by the way, you're still going to pay most of these dues even if you don't sign up. So, I sign up. I'm a union guy now. But isn't my union supposed to be fighting to improve our contract for me and my fellow pilots? Sure doesn't seem like they're working to get our pay to where MOST of us think it should be. Why not more talk about where our pay should be? Why does my union spend more time talking about the threat the company keeps pointing to--foreign carriers? Sure, I get it, they're a threat to pilot jobs in our country. But doesn't it seem convenient that that's the topic we hear so much about from our union and the company as far as what we should be concerned about? And if it's not that then it's new FAA rules. Why don't I hear hardly anything about how we need to get our pay back to where it should be? (I say hardly, because I haven't heard anything, but maybe there's been some mention of this as an objective somewhere). It's as if they don't want to attract any negative attention from the company or show any indication of being on a different page from the company. So, yes, DALPA, you convinced me to join your union, but it's weird--I don't feel like I'm in a union based on how hunky dory the relationship is. The last thing I'm suggesting is that DALPA seek a contentious relationship; I don't pretend to think that would be good for any of us. But the BFF relationship? I guess that's good if you like the status quo.

80ktsClamp 11-15-2013 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1520957)
Head out West....First Christmas I've worked in 4 years. Nothing but backwards on this side of the country.

I've worked the last 6. :cool: Nice for a change!

CVG767A 11-16-2013 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520724)

So I'll say again, it still surprises me that there are such a high percentage of tsquares among fDAL pilots. It's a culture I just don't understand. I know I'm not alone. It's probably the non-union culture at Delta coming through whereby the only union that can survive here is a union that only pretends to be a union.

Carl

This is an idiotic remark, even by your standards, Carl. You have yet to even fly with a fDAL pilot. Just where is it that your gain your wise insight into our nature?

I have the pleasure of flying with many fNWA pilots- probably one out of four guys I fly with are fNWA, in fact. They're great guys, and aren't different from fDAL guys in any significant way.

You seem to be lashing out and denigrating your fellow pilot even more than usual. Are we witnessing the death throes of the Detroit Pilots Association now? It ain't pretty.

You are one of the main reasons I've gone from posting here to occasionally lurking. Logging on to APC and seeing your posts is a lot like turning on CNN and seeing Nancy Grace.

Carl Spackler 11-16-2013 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1520920)
So how do you go from working in Delta HR to being a 747 driver? Because if you aren't actually an HR rep, or on the hiring group, than all you got going is your opinion.

No, I've got the rocking chair shrink's opinion. Have a number of friends who interviewed with him. They tell me of this part of the interview:

Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?

Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.

Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.

As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1520920)
And you really don't like it when people don't toe the line with your opinion do you?

Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.

Carl

tsquare 11-16-2013 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1521012)
No, I've got the rocking chair shrink's opinion. Have a number of friends who interviewed with him. They tell me of this part of the interview:

Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?

Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.

Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.

As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.



Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.

Carl


Dude, seriously, try decaf or non alcoholic beer or wear a tin foil hat... something. You are going completely around the bend.


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