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tsquare 11-15-2013 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520749)
You've said exactly that. You've said you can't wait to hear Carl screaming all the way from Florida when the 747 gets moved to Atlanta and he gets displaced. So has slowplay and all the others like you. It's just a curious trait because I haven't seen it before until I've come here.

Carl

Have a nice weekend Carl. You were amusing, but now you are just getting boring.

Sink r8 11-15-2013 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520724)
You're one of the poster children for this tsquare. You would never strike mother Delta under any circumstances...exactly what the rocking chair dude was screening for. You go further to say that even talk of a strike is stupid. Then you finish by continually defending Delta pilots trying only for small gains, then defending no net gains as the best we could get.

So I'll say again, it still surprises me that there are such a high percentage of tsquares among fDAL pilots. It's a culture I just don't understand. I know I'm not alone. It's probably the non-union culture at Delta coming through whereby the only union that can survive here is a union that only pretends to be a union.

Doubling-down, I see. I can't do the full back-and-forth, because I will incur The Wrath if The One catches me on here, but you ought to be nice and quiet about things you don't really know, instead of taking an oblique shot at 7,000 pilots.

The testing wasn't targeting pu$$ies, it was looking for highly effective people.

RD people have plenty of legitimate debates about how aggressive we ought to be, and plenty of different opinions. But if you line up the pre-merger contracts, and make inferences about the populations, you can't make the idiotic argument you're making.

You get the last word, maybe you'll use it to start making sense.

tsquare 11-15-2013 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1520752)
Doubling-down, I see. I can't do the full back-and-forth, because I will incur The Wrath if The One catches me on here, but you ought to be nice and quiet about things you don't really know, instead of taking an oblique shot at 7,000 pilots.

The testing wasn't targeting pu$$ies, it was looking for highly effective people.

RD people have plenty of legitimate debates about how aggressive we ought to be, and plenty of different opinions. But if you line up the pre-merger contracts, and make inferences about the populations, you can't make the idiotic argument you're making.

You get the last word, maybe you'll use it to start making sense.

Optimistic on a Friday night are we?

contrails 11-15-2013 01:44 PM

Posted in error

forgot to bid 11-15-2013 01:53 PM

For you 7ER Bs in NYC, have you met Captain Newk?

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ot...93_600x338.jpg

And you had the truck go backwards!?



freaking show-off. :D

Carl Spackler 11-15-2013 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1520752)
Doubling-down, I see. I can't do the full back-and-forth, because I will incur The Wrath if The One catches me on here, but you ought to be nice and quiet about things you don't really know, instead of taking an oblique shot at 7,000 pilots.

The testing wasn't targeting pu$$ies, it was looking for highly effective people.

RD people have plenty of legitimate debates about how aggressive we ought to be, and plenty of different opinions. But if you line up the pre-merger contracts, and make inferences about the populations, you can't make the idiotic argument you're making.

You get the last word, maybe you'll use it to start making sense.

That's your opinion of what the testing was targeting. I actually happen to know better. Never striking Delta was the rocking chair shrink's main goal. Many of the 7,000 RD's were able to slip past his screening, but a significant percentage believe the way he was screening. It's one of the reasons this culture is so different.

You can go off on me all you wish, but I'd heard about the "unique" culture at Delta for a long time. I heard it from Delta pilots, Pan Am pilots and Western pilots. I resolved to wait and see for myself. Now I see it too. Our culture has a greater number of pilots who would never strike than any other major group I can think of. I still think a majority would strike as a last resort, but a significant minority wouldn't. To me, that's weird.

Carl

Denny Crane 11-15-2013 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520664)
Denny, that's not what he said and that's not what you bolded. He said our contracts should pass by high 80 percentiles.

Instead, DALPA/management seem to target 50%+1, then DALPA gets an additional 10% by claiming there's no plan B, or our negotiators will resign, or you don't want to know how bad management's plan B will be if you vote this down, etc, etc.

Carl

Carl,

He may not have "said" that but that's exactly how he came across. If a contract needs to pass by anything above 50% + 1, then the will of the majority is being subverted and he calls that Unity?

Denny

Carl Spackler 11-15-2013 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1520778)
Carl,

He may not have "said" that but that's exactly how he came across. If a contract needs to pass by anything above 50% + 1, then the will of the majority is being subverted and he calls that Unity?

Denny

I just don't follow you on that Denny. :confused:

Carl

Thrust Normal 11-15-2013 02:45 PM

Hello all. Quick question: I'm flying over to OGG our of LAX on the 757-300 this weekend. Do we have in-flight entertainment on those? Thanks.

Denny Crane 11-15-2013 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1520780)
I just don't follow you on that Denny. :confused:

Carl

He says a contract should pass by 80%+ not 50% +1. Is not the will of the majority possibly subverted by requiring such a high standard to pass? Should we now not follow the will of the majority in contract votes? I don't agree.

Okay, I went back and reread his post. I may be taking the Unity thing out of context but his comment implied to me that there could not be unity with anything other than his way of thinking. Just from a numbers standpoint, there is more unity within the majority than the minority.

Denny


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