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CVG767A 12-02-2013 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1531270)
If...as DALPA claims, the new average is 92 hours per month, that is 22% more, per line pilot, than back when we had a 75 hour pay cap.

So, yeah, they would have to hire 22% more pilots, or find another way to make reserves fly more, etc. if we went back to a hard cap of75 hours.

The past 5 years of stagnation is not totally due to age 65. The stagnation was also due to death of the hard 75 hour pay cap.

We're our own worst enemies. I fly with plenty of guys that routinely fly in excess of 100 credit hours per month. Their rationale for doing so is completely understandable-- paying for college, recovering a lost pension, and covering a too-large mortgage are the most common reasons.

I don't raise the BS flag until that same person starts carping about the lack of career progression.

index 12-02-2013 05:28 AM

Did I say War Eagle?
 

NERD 12-02-2013 06:24 AM

Need a little help from the military guys. A divorced friend has a teenager whose father just retired from the military. She would like some info on the program for college tuition from his service. I have heard plenty of y'all discuss how it can be used for oneself, one child, split up amongst children, etc. Is there a website, phone number that she can contact to see what is available, if anything? Thanks

Doug Masters 12-02-2013 06:42 AM

Latest from council 44 hotline:

Item 4. MD-88 Staffing (repeat item): Some pilots holding a bid or displacement to the MD88 will be converted on December 1st or January 1st prior to their expected conversion dates and prior to training. These conversions are to maintain the minimum PBS Staffing formula required by your contract. Our Scheduling Committee monitors these requirements continually. Your MEC is committed to enforcing your contract.

The way I read this is that the company will convert guys prior to training to meet the staffing formula. So if we are short in a category the company just types up a new conversion list and its magically in compliance? What am I missing?

daldude 12-02-2013 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1531340)
Need a little help from the military guys. A divorced friend has a teenager whose father just retired from the military. She would like some info on the program for college tuition from his service. I have heard plenty of y'all discuss how it can be used for oneself, one child, split up amongst children, etc. Is there a website, phone number that she can contact to see what is available, if anything? Thanks


Welcome to the GI Bill Web Site | The Home for All Educational Benefits Provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs

Here you go. The whole process needs to be initiated by the military member to transfer benefits. PM if you have additional questions.

GunshipGuy 12-02-2013 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1531340)
Need a little help from the military guys. A divorced friend has a teenager whose father just retired from the military. She would like some info on the program for college tuition from his service. I have heard plenty of y'all discuss how it can be used for oneself, one child, split up amongst children, etc. Is there a website, phone number that she can contact to see what is available, if anything? Thanks

First it needs to be determined if the military member (the father) wants to transfer his Post-911 GI Bill benefits to her. If he does then he can initiate this action. This option is only available if the father retired after Aug 2009 or is currently serving. If currently serving the military member would likely incur additional commitment unless he already has a commitment that takes him to a point where the GI Bill transfer commitment would be concurrent. For more information visit the VA's Post-9/11 GI Bill page.

GunshipGuy 12-02-2013 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1531343)
Latest from council 44 hotline:

Item 4. MD-88 Staffing (repeat item): Some pilots holding a bid or displacement to the MD88 will be converted on December 1st or January 1st prior to their expected conversion dates and prior to training. These conversions are to maintain the minimum PBS Staffing formula required by your contract. Our Scheduling Committee monitors these requirements continually. Your MEC is committed to enforcing your contract.

The way I read this is that the company will convert guys prior to training to meet the staffing formula. So if we are short in a category the company just types up a new conversion list and its magically in compliance? What am I missing?

My understanding is the category for the MD-88 guys was so low they are putting pilots who bid the 88 onto the category list even though they have not gotten their training yet. So the category is technically staffed to min level required, but the real-world (can actually be on reserve or hold a line) staffing is not. The new 88 pilots are out of their old category and are getting paid to wait around for their training.

NERD 12-02-2013 07:03 AM

Dude and Gunship I'll pass this along. Thanks for the quick reply.

Herkflyr 12-02-2013 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1531343)
Latest from council 44 hotline:

Item 4. MD-88 Staffing (repeat item): Some pilots holding a bid or displacement to the MD88 will be converted on December 1st or January 1st prior to their expected conversion dates and prior to training. These conversions are to maintain the minimum PBS Staffing formula required by your contract. Our Scheduling Committee monitors these requirements continually. Your MEC is committed to enforcing your contract.

The way I read this is that the company will convert guys prior to training to meet the staffing formula. So if we are short in a category the company just types up a new conversion list and its magically in compliance? What am I missing?

These guys are converted BEFORE training. That means they will get a pay raise in most instances, and get the ALV for sitting around watching TV.

Contrary to the drivel you often read here, DALPA often does hold the company's feet to the fire, and ensuring compliance with the contract is a nonstop job. The contract requires minimum staffing. Most categories usually exceed that comfortably, but in some cases, such as this one, the staffing would not be in compliance without such exceptional moves.

I can promise you the company is not happy about giving guys a pay raise and being unable to fly them, but they dug this hole and DALPA wasn't about to lift them out of it.

(To be fair, any union, including DPA would do the same, but I wanted to highlight that DALPA doesn't always sit around trying to solve the company's problems of their own doing--on the contrary, we ensure that the contract is followed even when the company would love to not do so).

Flamer 12-02-2013 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1531284)
I won't make that myself this year, but I have been thinking about bidding right seat on it, just so I can be Number 1 in something! The problem with that is, you have to fly a lot of greenslips as a senior F/O, to break $300K, and 38% of that is going straight to Uncle Sam, and my other problem with greenslips is, you have to show up and fly them!

I prefer to stay home and go sailing on my off days, rather than rush to the airport for yet another 5-8 day trip.

I usually try to stay below 80K. It helps keep me humble.


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