Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1534856)

I live in Ann Arbor - every time I'm chatting with a FA or pilot of a certain length of service, they always say, "we used to layover in Ann Arbor on the 727 and loved it..."

Ann Arbor is a good example of a nice "downtown" layover if the length is decent. Many, many choices of places to eat, of all budgets and tastes. Things to see and do, places to exercise outside for joggers where you aren't taking you life in your hands (run on campus or in the arboretum). Also, being a college town the place doesn't close up at 7pm like some downtowns. For the FAs, it is safe with vibrant, unique shopping.

I've talked to guys who always layover at the airport at other airlines. Man, what a pain. Essentially you're stuck in the hotel, until you make the Frogger like dash across multiple lanes of traffic to reach the two places to eat. Oh, and no sidewalks because everyone drives by the airport, so you're stuck walking in the weeds next to the highway.

We spent a fair percentage of our life in hotels and on the road. I don't want it to be miserable.

Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1535163)

A long call pilot that gets called in the middle of the night at 0100 for a 1300 show must now acknowledge the trip NLT 0300, there by interrupting his REM cycle and leading to terrible "rest" prior to the trip. (According to the company, not the contract).

Yeah, something has to give. They are going to have to extend long call to make any sense at all. Trips like this are going to have to go to short calls.

Whatever happens, we need to make sure that DALPA doesn't allow more short call periods. The company already gets too many IMO. "I'm only sitting a couple short calls a month right now so it doesn't matter" you say? Wait until we are experiencing a ton of movement and all the categories look like the -88 does now. Long call will be but a dream...

Looks like the ball is in our court to get some reserve improvements, because this new "policy" doesn't jive with the contract.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1534915)

It believe it depends on why the reroute occurred. Was it a mechanical delay? Or weather?

A rerouted reserve pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of his original rotation will receive single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus single pay no credit (in addition to any other form of pay for the bid period) for any duty period that extends beyond such four hour limitation and into either:

a. an X-day, or
b. a regular line day-off.

Exception one: If such rerouted pilot is not scheduled to release at his base within such four hour time limitation due to a circumstance over which the Company does not have control (e.g., pilot's origin or destination airport closed, weather on pilot's routing, mechanical on pilot's assigned aircraft) he will receive only single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown.

Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1535165)

So you are on long call and the company calls you at 2am for a 2pm trip report. You now have to wake up and return the call or go online to acknowledge by 4am. Whereas, before you could just keep your ringer off and call them back at 11am. You are basically on short call continuously. BS.

Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1535163)

A long call pilot that gets called in the middle of the night at 0100 for a 1300 show must now acknowledge the trip NLT 0300, there by interrupting his REM cycle and leading to terrible "rest" prior to the trip. (According to the company, not the contract).
Yeah, something has to give. They are going to have to extend long call to make any sense at all. Trips like this are going to have to go to short calls.

Whatever happens, we need to make sure that DALPA doesn't allow more short call periods. The company already gets too many IMO. "I'm only sitting a couple short calls a month right now so it doesn't matter" you say? Wait until we are experiencing a ton of movement and all the categories look like the -88 does now. Long call will be but a dream...

Looks like the ball is in our court to get some reserve improvements, because this new "policy" doesn't jive with the contract.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1535222)

Ok. I'm trying to digest this letter on what the company is trying to do with reserve. So, correct me if I'm wrong, does it look like the earliest SC, and earliest report time for a trip, we can be assigned on Day 1 of reserve is 12 noon?

If true, that is a great improvement.