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Carl Spackler 11-16-2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1521103)
Geezuz Carl,

Can you give all of this DPA/ALPA/D-ALPA/pmNWA/pmDAL stuff a rest?

You know, as well as everyone else, that if the DPA was able to call for a vote, and CONFIDENT the vote would pass, that they would've done so by now.

This 'drive' for an independent union has been 'divisive' for this pilot group for almost three years. The 'divisiveness' has been a black cloud over our group for one Section 6 negotiation, & has the potential to be lingering over the heads of our entire MERGED (I don't even F'n know why we're still talking pmNWA/pmDAL BULL$h!t) pilot group during contract openers in March '14.

DPA - It is not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It isn't going to happen. (Appalachian American speak) IT'S AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!

Give it up. I KNOW you have better things to do on your days off, or on an extended layover in NRT than to be staring at a keyboard for hours on end, rebutting someone's rebuttal. It just gets old, doesn't it?

GJ

Emotional tirades are unconvincing.

Carl

Purple Drank 11-16-2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1520970)
Carl, you kind of hit the nail on the head for me...as a fDAL guy I came in having been anti-union in mindset since birth. But during my first two weeks on property we go over to the DALPA building ... But isn't my union supposed to be fighting to improve our contract for me and my fellow pilots? Sure doesn't seem like they're working to get our pay to where MOST of us think it should be. Why not more talk about where our pay should be?

Sums up my background and thoughts perfectly, GG.

I simply can't fathom why "our" "union" keeps acting as the company's spokesman for tamping down our wages.

Carl Spackler 11-16-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1521117)
Carl,

Yup. I can read. Your just being a jerk. I had a 2 hour one on one conversation with Tim Caplinger a few months back. From my previous experience as a union organizer I warned him about loud mouth Internet know it alls. You in particular.

I know you can read, you're just choosing not to. You're trying to shut someone up by putting words in their mouths and going off on emotional tantrums. You ain't shuttin me up ace, so relax.


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1521117)
You stereotyped the fdal group as a bunch of tsquares.

Again, I did no such thing. No matter how much you try to mischaracterize, you ain't shoutin me down.

Carl

DeadHead 11-16-2013 07:12 AM


scambo1 11-16-2013 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1521053)
Now Carl,

You know that I generally agree with most of your opinions. But, I have to check you on this one.

From what I can remember in my shrink interview, he asked mostly about my family, their views about me leaving the military and how they felt about me working for the airlines. I can't remember any questions about unions.

Now, my buddy said the first question asked was "How do you feel about your sisters?"

His response was "I love them, but I don't want to sleep with them."

The shrink responded "That's all I've got."

He was hired.

If you had ever seen his sisters, you wouldn't want to sleep with them either. :D


Orvil,
I thought you were a Marine.:confused::rolleyes:

Justdoinmyjob 11-16-2013 07:27 AM

Carl,
There was no rocking chair nor a single union question in my interview. The shrink thought I might have a death wish for being a skydiver, until I pointed out that at least I had a reserve chute if something went wrong, but he, as an avid hang glider had nothing but air if the fecal matter hit the oscillating wind machine. He laughed and said I was right.

You must be getting your information from some dinosaurs of aviation. What you describe hasn't happened in years. If anything, those guys are now most likely a minority group.

Elliot 11-16-2013 07:37 AM


Emotional tirades are unconvincing. Carl
Not emotional about it at all, Carl.

The facts speak for themselves. (You claim to be a fact based person. :rolleyes: ) You don't have the votes, and won't by Jan. 1st. The DPA group would save a HUGE amount of face by asking TC to ****, but that ain't ever gonna happen Carl. Just like the DPA becoming our bargaining agent, "ain't gonna happen."

So, whatever you want to believe is an "emotional tirade", I'd like for you to just STOP embarrassing yourself. If I didn't know it, I'd think you were TC, in the flesh.

GJ

Carl Spackler 11-16-2013 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1521159)
You must be getting your information from some dinosaurs of aviation. What you describe hasn't happened in years. If anything, those guys are now most likely a minority group.

Well it's certainly true that a lot of my buds are dinosaurs. That's what happens when you're a dinosaur.

It's great if that's not happening anymore. That means there may be hope with our newer people diminishing the influence of certain dinosaurs who would never even think about striking mother Delta. If you're not willing to strike as a last resort, we'll never again lead this industry.

Carl

Starcheck102 11-16-2013 07:43 AM

Carl,

You don't have any business speculating on conversations between "South" guys and the psychiatrist retained for their interviews. If you're so interested in mental health, you could extend that curiosity to research Dunning-Kruger Syndrome or Narcissistic Sociopath Personality Disorder.

Relax! Neither one is grounds for loss of medical certification, but either one (or both - you never know) could provide the basis of your serial rants and endless self-pity.

Imagine that, a 747 captain who feels sorry for himself, offering expert opinion on pilots he has never flown with...

DARR31 11-16-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1521040)
Witnessed that guy myself, TOTD for sure. :rolleyes:

What I really sat wondering about as he retreated to the cockpit after a five minute P.A. including giving all the women his phone number which was supposedly 1-800-HOT-CAPTAIN (you can't make this stuff up), was how on earth has this been allowed to continue for what I imagine is, 30-40 flights a month, for years on end??

Anyway back on topic . . .

I love those early AM ones too. Capt once asked me to make one in the early AM and I told him I would not since the folks were probably sleeping or watching TV and his reply was "If I have to be awake, so do they". So after his 5 min PA, I think they were all awake! :(


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