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Professor 02-28-2014 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1592250)
If it hasn't changed from when I enjoyed the 'Iraq War Vacation' then he's right. You get recalled to what is available. You then can bid on an AE immediately with no freeze to hold you on he aircraft you returned on.

I'll find it, I know it happened for an absolute fact. I was watching the category closely and was even denied an LAX bid right after LAX 73N's were awarded to returning pilots.

I've had a tough time finding the awards, but I'll dig it up. I know others on here saw it happen as well, as returning awards. Not AE's.

Alan Shore 02-28-2014 01:53 PM

As I said, gentlemen, the Company has the option of putting him into a new hire position, i.e., an unfilled vacancy, or allowing him to go to a category of his choosing that he is senior enough to hold.

Read all about it in 21 C. of the PWA.

Scoop 02-28-2014 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1592266)
As I said, gentlemen, the Company has the option of putting him into a new hire position, i.e., an unfilled vacancy, or allowing him to go to a category of his choosing that he is senior enough to hold.

Read all about it in 21 C. of the PWA.


And the furlough recall guys in LAX were relatively senior. I think that 5 guys accepted recall but then 1 guy resigned after accepting. The 4 that came back were all around 30-40 out of about 75 Pilots.


Scoop

index 02-28-2014 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1591867)
It would have to be inked today. Policy manual requires 7 day review period by the Reps.

You are correct about the 7 day review, however any and everything in the policy manual can be waived by the MEC.

The negotiating committee could still come up with an agreement over the weekend or even early next week.

You think the reps are going to vote to extend the MEC meeting over the weekend into the following week just to comply with said policy? Or do you think they might vote to waive the 7 day review period?

Just sayin.

sailingfun 02-28-2014 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1592186)
I still want to know how furlough returnees were awarded LAX seats with ZERO of them being offered in AE's and ZERO awarded via entitlements.

It's allowed per the contract.

Purple Drank 02-28-2014 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1592283)
You are correct about the 7 day review, however any and everything in the policy manual can be waived by the MEC.

Exactly what I was thinking. The MEC wouldn't let a silly thing like the policy manual get in its way.

Cogf16 02-28-2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1592036)
Personal preference, I wouldn't say all of that if the aircraft was taxiing.

To each his own.

The F/O says it, not the taxiing Capt and it takes all of 20 seconds, hardly a significant distraction. I appreciate the civil response, mine might have been a little over the top.

HVYinRESERVE 02-28-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1592158)
I have very very high doubts on these ER FO awards getting bumped this fall. The chances of that happening are up there with BB voluntarily bidding the MD88 or tsquare bidding an airbus! There are too many planes coming online for any sort of bumps to happen... yet. Eventually there will be, just not this soon.

The big question I have is when are we going to see some premium and super premium widebody slots open up?

There are not many airplanes from the ER category coming online soon. They'll need me back in the 73N after the summer rush with all the -900's coming. I would be happy to stay in the ER if that doesn't happen, but that's not the company line. The movement is going in a good direction, but ditching some of the 757's is making it a bit of back and forth for a few of us who were at the bottom of the ER lists. I am OK either way until I can get into Seattle.

BigGuns 02-28-2014 08:26 PM

All this 787 talk.... This is who will be flying those 787's... We better get a handle on it yesterday!


Roadkill 02-28-2014 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1592254)
I'll find it, I know it happened for an absolute fact. I was watching the category closely and was even denied an LAX bid right after LAX 73N's were awarded to returning pilots.

I've had a tough time finding the awards, but I'll dig it up. I know others on here saw it happen as well, as returning awards. Not AE's.

Alan Shore and sailingfun are correct. I had questions about it too so went direct to the source:
From Andy Hummel, Crew Resources, when I asked him where furlough returns were going (so we could bid appropriately and not get surprised/pushed out of a cat that had looked good). Not from DeltaNet:

The furlough pilots have the ability to return to a category if there is mutual agreement between the pilot and the company. If there is not a mutual agreement the furlough returns are placed in an entry level position.

Here is a list of the positions we will be offering to the furlough returning pilots. They will not have a seat freeze and can bid off as soon as they return. The positions being offered are the positions where we will continue to grow in the future (717, 73N) and where their seniority can hold.

Our goal is to minimize the training churn. Obviously placing the returning pilots all on the 717 would waste 717 training slots as they quickly bid off. We feel these positions will allow the pilots to return to a position they will remain in for at least the short-term.

I hope this helps answer your questions.

Andy Hummel
GM – Crew Resources

Category
Available Positions
DTW-73N-B
25
ATL-M88-B
18
LAX-73N-B
5
CVG-M88-B
1
NYC-73N-B
20
MSP-M88-B
9
NYC-M88-B
2
DTW-320-B
7
NYC-320-B
8
ATL-717-B
39
SLC-320-B
5
DTW-717-B
37


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