You had 30 hours off during your trip to get all rested up - what are you complaining about?! :rolleyes:

Well I just heard back from the DALPA Scheduling guy. Turns out in a "Normal Month" it would swap a carry out trip, but due to Feb. 2 being Super Bowl Sunday, and one of the true "Capped Holidays" (like Christmas, July 4, New Years, etc.), it will NOT swap or drop any carry out trip you have that goes over Feb. 2 on the early PCS runs, starting tomorrow.

He said it might do it come January 20th, after the Feb. bids are done, if they have adequate reserve coverage for Feb. 2. So, I'll have to wait until Jan. 20 to try to dump it. I wasn't aware Feb. 2 is Superbowl Sunday, I have no delusions that the Patsies will be in it, so I wasn't trying to get off for that.

Feb. 2 is also my Son's 21st birthday, I was planing us a trip to Vegas, get him some hookers and blow. I guess that'll have to wait...:rolleyes::D

Report on day one at 1600, release on day 7 at 0900. If my math is correct, you just worked 137 hours which means you had at least 30 hours off in the previous 168. You worked 7 days in a row without a 30 hour layover and it's perfectly legal.

You need 30 Consecutive hours off.


Scoop

Yep, I have a 3 day followed by a 4 day with 25 hours off between release and report. However, the 3 day has a 31 hr layo, and the 4 day has a 34 hr layo, so I'm "good to go!".
It's not 30 hrs of BLOCK now, they don't care about block... it's 60hrs of FLIGHT DUTY PERIODs, and guess what? a 30 hour layo is NOT a FDP, it's an opportunity for your to recharge your batteries away from home in a crppy hotel room, at no cost to the company...
We do need to make that time away from home cost the company something, and get paid for it.

Yes. A lot of 31 to 34 hour sits to fly one leg back to base ... not efficient.

With so many long sits commuting home, or to job #2, mid rotation might become an option for some.

Absolutely. Even now after how many decades and computer backups and supervisors, etc. they still occasionally get some of the basic FAR stuff wrong. These next few months will be a huge CYA exercise, especially with the company attempting to push us into contractually illegal mandates to overcome self induced logistical issues.

Take a look at my example again - there are 30 consecutive hours off at the beginning. After the pilot had worked his 7 days, he had 137 hours without a 30 hour rest. But, that's ok because he DID have 30+ consecutive hours of rest in the previous 168. 168 - 137 = 31. In a 168 hour look back upon his release on day 7, he had 31 consecutive hours of rest - at the beginning. In other words, you can go 138 hours before needing a 30 break in duty.

You're the best dad ever!!! :D

If you worked 7 days in a row you could not exceed 60 hours on duty. If there were 6 duty periods in your example they would have to average under 10 hours each. Possible but probably not the norm.