I don't think anyone is hating on furloughees but some take issue with them getting positions that others had recall rights to.

They put a number of furloughees in SLC on equipment others had been displaced off of and had recall rights to. Recalls go before seniority and furloughees should not have gotten those spots.

 

Captain,

That is not correct - the company followed the contract and properly placed the returning furloughed Pilots.

Your post almost make it sounds like being displaced is more burdensome than having been furloughed.

Scoop

 

Aren't you the reason people really really want to post on a web-board. What's up Mr. Sunshine?

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I was mistaken, vis a vis section 21 in the contract. However, my initial information came from someone at Alpa. Not that big a deal, but the filling of vacancy's understanding was not quite right on both our parts.

 

Dude, the only words out of your mouth should be, "glad you guys finally made it back, let me buy you one."

Since they're senior to you I assume you were hired in 07-08. If all those guys hadn't bypassed recall, you may not have been hired at all. In addition, I bet you logged a $hi!t load of TPIC in an RJ from 01-08 that replaced the mainline DL jets those furloughees were driving, which made it possible for you to be hired in the first place.

 

Feeling downcast and melancholy...working on a Saturday (ewwww)...and little did I know of the forthcoming joy....AN FTB SPOON!!!!

 

Well said.

 

^^^^^^^^^This

Having been furloughed, junior, and stagnant for the past 10 plus years...I am thrilled to have furloughed pilots back. Unless they are jumping ahead of you in seniority, I am not sure what the fuss is about?

 

I apologize for being so short. I know a couple of the guys who came back and their lives were pretty rough post furlough. I think the least the company could have done is put them back where they wanted to go. Tired of seeing people question anything about where they went I guess. Especially because all of them can hold at least ER everywhere in the system.

 

no worries.

its contract compliance, not entitlement making me ask questions.
especially in light of the co's recent 'interpretation' of FAR117.

contract was followed, no complaints.

 

This article came today in the Wall Street Journal. Now, in addition to Abu Dhabi, we have to be concerned about Doha and Qatari Airways.
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Qatar in Talks Over U.S. 'Preclearance' Customs Facility

By RORY JONES

Updated March 1, 2014 9:09 a.m. ET

A 787 Dreamliner owned by Qatar Airways stands on display at the Singapore Airshow in February. The new airport serving Qatar's capital, Doha, is in talks for a U.S. 'preclearance' customs facility. Bloomberg News

Qatar is the latest Persian Gulf country to apply for a controversial U.S. "preclearance" customs post, a development that could offer the region's government-owned carriers an advantage over other airlines.

Doha's new international airport, which is expected to open later this year, is in talks with U.S. authorities over such a post, according to Akbar Al Baker, the chief executive of Qatar Airways.

A similar U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility that opened in Abu Dhabi earlier this year led to an uproar among U.S. pilot associations, which claim such posts would give Gulf carriers an unfair advantage over peers. The facility allows passengers to go through U.S. customs before boarding their flight and thus bypass the process after arriving in the U.S.

"This will enhance our product as we are growing in the United States," Mr. Al Baker told reporters Saturday.

The growth of the Gulf region's three biggest carriers--Qatar, Emirates Airline and Etihad Airways--has irked some European and U.S. carriers, which have complained the Gulf airlines are funded by deep-pocketed governments that subsidize their cost base.

The Air Line Pilots Association--the largest pilot union in the U.S., representing some 50,000 pilots--has objected to the Abu Dhabi facility, previously calling it an "example of bad U.S. government policy."

Abu Dhabi, whose preclearance facility opened in January, was the 15th airport to secure such a post. Ireland's Shannon Airport was the first outside North America to open one of the U.S. facilities. Similar posts exist in Dublin and several Canadian airports as well as in Bermuda, Aruba and the Bahamas.

Etihad, which is based at the Abu Dhabi airport, plans to increase flights to New York this month and will launch service to Los Angeles in June and Dallas-Fort Worth in December. No U.S. carriers currently fly to Abu Dhabi, which is paying for about 85% of its preclearance facility.

The two other large Gulf carriers are also aggressively expanding in the U.S. market. Qatar plans to start service to Miami, Philadelphia and Dallas-Fort Worth this year, in addition to its routes to New York, Washington, Chicago and Houston. Emirates said last week it intends to begin service to Chicago and will start flights to Boston from Dubai this month.

Dubai, which operates the world's second-busiest airport for international traffic, has also expressed an interest in setting up a preclearance facility.

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