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scambo1 03-05-2014 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1595390)
Better? Absolutely not.

And Compass was a Northwest abomination that Delta inherited.

I cannot believe how (unbelievably) polar opposite we are on our scope beliefs. How, praytell, in the real world, would you advocate scope recapture...It can't involve a machinegun held waist high set to full auto.

sailingfun 03-05-2014 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 1595426)
You can look at flight attendants, rampers, and van drivers every day and make a comment like that? I beg to disagree. Even as a 2nd year RJ fo 10 years ago, I was able to buy a modest house and support a wife and child. Granted, I was lucky and had some fortunate timing, but I dealt with a furlough and unexpected issues in my career. Even before I made it to a major, I had the perspective to acknowledge what I did have. If you hate it so much, you should sincerely move on, find something else and let someone who can appreciate it have your spot. Life is short.

Great post!

Doug Masters 03-05-2014 04:14 AM

The chick flick on Lifetime channel has become more exciting than this thread.

Razorback one 03-05-2014 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 1595463)
Well I'm not sure but he may be part of the flow...

Our IDs are made by Delta, look very similar, and are Delta property.

Things that make you go "hmmm"

I was told recently that the DAL hiring board marks a no for individuals who use "I am familiar with the DAL system" "I've flown Delta pax around". Apparently when the pax are on DCI aircraft, though the pax think they are on DAL, we are still a separate experience in HR's eyes.

If I'm reading your post correctly...

Wasn't the case in 2007 when I interviewed and was hired. I used this very line. I think you may have some bad info there...

cencal83406 03-05-2014 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Razorback one (Post 1595488)
If I'm reading your post correctly...

Wasn't the case in 2007 when I interviewed and was hired. I used this very line. I think you may have some bad info there...

Well besides potential skeletons in the quote author's closet, maybe the rest of their SSP interview went badly.

I would have thought flying Delta pax and doing so with great customer service would be a positive trait as a candidate.

forgot to bid 03-05-2014 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1595472)
On the 717 front wrt the left coast, 4 aircraft initially dedicated to ATL-AUSTIN-LAX. Then there will be several flights a day to SEA via LAX with the pilots obviously reversing back to ATL.

Pardon me, most of us are former ATL MD-88 guys who couldn't do the magical "west coast" flying out of MSP or whatever that was.

So I really don't understand what you're talking about... what is this "LAX" and "SEA" place? There's nothing west of ABQ. Nothing. I looked when I was landing in ABQ and I saw, nothing. :D


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1595400)
You got in at a bad time. The people coming up will likely have the exact opposite experience as you have had.

I wholeheartedly agree. For a guy starting his flying today, who won't be that much junior to me at mainline, they will have a lot of fun.

I hope.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1595450)
Cargo ops are still flying around with flight engineers. They are by far the slowest to adopt new tech. Lot's of talk, but the new tech costs far more than keeping a few pilots around.

I don't think you can get away with 1 man takeoffs and landings, I just don't. What I am more concerned with is getting rid of the relief pilots/crews enroute thanks to "drone" like technology. They takeoff and land together but after 30 minutes one pilot goes on break, the other sits in the cockpit with an open skype channel to a fancy dispatch, then they swap. Have a problem? Get the other guy back in. Kind of like the MPL without the brat. Now have multiple planes have problems... "thank you for holding..." :D

I'm making it up. I know they're working on stuff though and as sure as I am that we'd fight it and save 800-1000 WB FO jobs here, I'm not certain Norwegian Air types wouldn't adopt it.

I mean look at it this way, say it's 1000 WB FOs at 12 year pay plus benefits and training and profit sharing, let's conservatively say they cost $200K per year. It's $200M saved.

It'd be a fight. "Remember AF447" would be the rallying cry.

Bucking Bar 03-05-2014 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 1595463)
I was told recently that the DAL hiring board marks a no for individuals who use "I am familiar with the DAL system" "I've flown Delta pax around". Apparently when the pax are on DCI aircraft, though the pax think they are on DAL, we are still a separate experience in HR's eyes.

That has not been my experience with the panel. Generally, the more positive data points a candidate has with Delta, the better.

+ Always wanted to work for Delta
+ Already worked for Delta
+ Volunteered with a Delta charitable project
+ Worked with for a Delta subsidiary
+ Represented the Delta brand to customers

The panel objectively seeks Delta's "core values." Chief among these is a positive enthusiasm for Delta.

Entitlement isn't pretty and isn't a winning strategy. Perhaps that is what you thought you heard. From what I am hearing the reason many of the flows were not taken were objective failures on the tests ... which suggests a lack of preparation (perhaps due to a sense of entitlement ... why study, I'm in)

Also, Delta, like many mainline interviews are a league apart from express carrier interviews. If people are not actively working on preparations, both formal and informal, their chances of success are not high, no matter who they are.

Bucking Bar 03-05-2014 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1595501)
I don't think you can get away with 1 man takeoffs and landings, .........

That's some MD88 artwork begging to be made.

Pineapple Guy 03-05-2014 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1595505)

Entitlement isn't pretty and isn't a winning strategy. Perhaps that is what you thought you heard. From what I am hearing the reason many of the flows were not taken were objective failures on the tests ... which suggests a lack of preparation (perhaps due to a sense of entitlement ... why study, I'm in)

Also, Delta, like many mainline interviews are a league apart from express carrier interviews. If people are not actively working on preparations, both formal and informal, their chances of success are not high, no matter who they are.

BB, I agree with much of what you strive for, but this is one of the reasons I am NOT in favor of bringing their whole list onto our list. I've heard the initial SSP guys have a roughly 50% acceptance rate. I don't want to sound harsh, but I don't want someone in my right seat that Delta doesn't also want there.

Bucking Bar 03-05-2014 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1595509)
BB, I agree with much of what you strive for, but this is one of the reasons I am NOT in favor of bringing their whole list onto our list. I've heard the initial SSP guys have a roughly 50% acceptance rate. I don't want to sound harsh, but I don't want someone in my right seat that Delta doesn't also want there.

The same argument could be made for every merger.

The benefits outweigh the down sides.

I think we all can agree it would be better if Delta did the screening before they entered the Delta brand and began flying Delta passengers.

It sounds harsh, but I'm mostly interested in the end state ... that Delta pilots perform Delta flying. Whether Delta wants to get there by setting up it's own operation and sun-setting the failing parts of DCI, fine. But with a $25,000,000,000.00 investment already made in DCI it has a lot of momentum. Who knows, management out at least $4 billion into Comair without shedding a tear at it's funeral.


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