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80ktsClamp 03-04-2014 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1595409)
The drone technology makes single pilot feasible in the next decade. I'm hoping you're right, but that and Norwegian Air, hmmm, I just don't know.

It took airlines 35 years to convert to 2 man cockpits completely. The odds are certainly not in your favor were you to bet on that one being an issue. :)

Corporate ops that are quicker to adopt technology, yeah I can see that coming to fruition earlier.

Bluto 03-04-2014 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1595393)
If I had kids, which I don't cant afford them on my 7th year making under 30k, I would tell them to stay so far away from airlines as possible. This is one of the top ten worst jobs to have I think.

You can look at flight attendants, rampers, and van drivers every day and make a comment like that? I beg to disagree. Even as a 2nd year RJ fo 10 years ago, I was able to buy a modest house and support a wife and child. Granted, I was lucky and had some fortunate timing, but I dealt with a furlough and unexpected issues in my career. Even before I made it to a major, I had the perspective to acknowledge what I did have. If you hate it so much, you should sincerely move on, find something else and let someone who can appreciate it have your spot. Life is short.

Bucking Bar 03-04-2014 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1595423)
It took airlines 35 years to convert to 2 man cockpits completely. The odds are certainly not in your favor were you to bet on that one being an issue. :)

Corporate ops that are quicker to adopt technology, yeah I can see that coming to fruition earlier.

Many corporate aircraft certified for single pilot ops utilize two pilots although the weight of the SIC is a factor for the operators ... insurance and BOD's fearful of losing executives drive the decision to put another pilot on the flight deck.

80ktsClamp 03-04-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1595432)
Many corporate aircraft certified for single pilot ops utilize two pilots although the weight of the SIC is a factor for the operators ... insurance and BOD's fearful of losing executives drive the decision to put another pilot on the flight deck.

Very true... even king airs and such. It's going to be a looooong time before we practically see single pilot ops.

Mesabah 03-04-2014 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1595436)
Very true... even king airs and such. It's going to be a looooong time before we practically see single pilot ops.

My thinking was along the lines of 1 pilot in the airplane, and one pilot monitoring several flights on the ground. This is what was being studied for cargo ops, but yes airlines are a different ball game. This type of setup would be overly complicated for a corporate department.

Airfix 03-04-2014 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1595439)
My thinking was along the lines of 1 pilot in the airplane, and one pilot monitoring several flights on the ground. This is what was being studied for cargo ops, but yes airlines are a different ball game. This type of setup would be overly complicated for a corporate department.

If the safety analysts state that you are required to have one pilot in the flightdeck for ccommunication losses or for manual override then i think you will always need 2 because what if the first guy becomes sick or dies at the wrong time the consequences are huge. Therefore I think are more likely to see a jump to zero pilots when the technology is sufficiently robust. That is going to be a very long time away. You should look at the failure rate of military drones it is surprisingly high.

Airfix

80ktsClamp 03-04-2014 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1595439)
My thinking was along the lines of 1 pilot in the airplane, and one pilot monitoring several flights on the ground. This is what was being studied for cargo ops, but yes airlines are a different ball game. This type of setup would be overly complicated for a corporate department.

Cargo ops are still flying around with flight engineers. They are by far the slowest to adopt new tech. Lot's of talk, but the new tech costs far more than keeping a few pilots around.

cencal83406 03-05-2014 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc (Post 1595261)
I'm sorry Mesabah; but unless you have a Delta ID and a seniority number, you're not a Delta pilot..regardless of what your paycheck says.

Well I'm not sure but he may be part of the flow...

Our IDs are made by Delta, look very similar, and are Delta property.

Things that make you go "hmmm"

I was told recently that the DAL hiring board marks a no for individuals who use "I am familiar with the DAL system" "I've flown Delta pax around". Apparently when the pax are on DCI aircraft, though the pax think they are on DAL, we are still a separate experience in HR's eyes.

RonRicco 03-05-2014 03:09 AM

On the 717 front wrt the left coast, 4 aircraft initially dedicated to ATL-AUSTIN-LAX. Then there will be several flights a day to SEA via LAX with the pilots obviously reversing back to ATL.

TANSTAAFL 03-05-2014 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1595472)
On the 717 front wrt the left coast, 4 aircraft initially dedicated to ATL-AUSTIN-LAX. Then there will be several flights a day to SEA via LAX with the pilots obviously reversing back to ATL.

Forget where I heard it, but discussion is it will be flown with ATL and DTW based crews. No left coast 717 base.


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