That was my point. You are experienced and professional.

If a pilot's last two words on the CVR are "I'm tired" then fatigue is a pretty good guess for a human factors element. Have you read either of the CVR transcripts cited?

What is your take on Compass, who were members of our MEC ?

Isn't it better to have the express guys in the circle where we can control them (and they are us), than outside the circle where they can try to pick off our flying?

Of course had he been anywhere near the wing he was watching he actually might have been able to stop it...

They wait until the quinary bids are awarded. Then they run the move-ups every month. Awards no later than 1800/4th. You'll see a pop-up if your vacation has changed.

Then I say call the bluff. There comes a point where they are going to have to exercise those options on those resumes or they expire... to analogize. I think the pilot shortage IS real at the regional level, just from the handful of folks at that level I have talked to. But to take your belief that it isn't, why should we pay for the return of those airplanes? As you believe, there are stacks of unopened resumes that they could then open and staff the airline for which we just paid. No... I'd rather let them play that hand. We pay nothing, and if they then open the hiring floodgates at the regionals, I say good luck getting those slots filled at $20K/year.

Not one red cent for this. Period. Like (Bar? I think) said, no reason to pay for something you don't have... (or something like that....)

Ludicrous assertion.

You already purchased our airline. We negotiate directly with your management(Bridge Agreement), we also get paid directly from Delta. For a legal point of view, we are Delta pilots, we are just not Delta CBA represented pilots. Labor law is actually free Tsquare, you don't have to pay for it. The problem comes form what happens when the NMB sides with DALPA, yes, there then becomes more mouths to feed at the table. But, this is about restoring the profession for all those poor souls that won't be lucky enough, or well connected enough, to get on with the ever shrinking mainlines, where viable careers are found.

If all you want is bigger contract gains, then I see no point in even having this discussion, because you might as well just sell more contract items, everything is for sale. However, take it from me, someone who has millions of dollars, money isn't everything, you just exchange one set of problems for a new set of problems.

Lee Moak was the Chairman, so that's all you really need to know. His buddies on the MEC fell in line with his decision to send us out on our own, and the idea wasn't given another thought.

To think, the now President of the largest pilots union in the world had the opportunity to change the landscape at his finger tips only 6 years ago.

How ironic.

What color is the sky in your world?

Blue but with dark storm clouds moving in fast. However, what do you think is easier to get, a job at a shrinking regional, or a job at a shrinking mainline?