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Boomer 03-03-2014 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1594139)
Or what if Tsqaures LGBT pay proved to be a winner because it'd require 15% more pilots and the company was for it...

Nice play. :D

80ktsClamp 03-03-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1594647)
They don't take an FO slot, more like the FO gets a secretary.

We carry 2 FOs on most oceanic flights. That would eliminate one of them, thus eliminating an FO slot.

Nothankyousir!

sailingfun 03-03-2014 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1594579)
Except that ALPA does not hire pilots. Delta does. And they obviously don't have an exclusive preference for ALPA pilots.

A point that is lost on this forum time after time. ALPA also does not control the seniority list. The company decides who goes on that list and owns it. We do get to audit it contractually once a year.

Bucking Bar 03-04-2014 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1594673)
A point that is lost on this forum time after time. ALPA also does not control the seniority list. The company decides who goes on that list and owns it. We do get to audit it contractually once a year.

Except that your statement is a half truth.

Strategically ALPA does control the seniority list. ALPA negotiated scope defines who is a Delta pilot and what Delta flying the Delta seniority list pilots perform. ALPA, as a labor union decides when it will make single carrier petitions to the NMB to seek a single seniority list among carriers.

Yes, the Company hires who they want to. The Company also has equal access to the NMB.

But to illustrate my point, if ALPA has nothing to do with it, why then were we able to leverage unity with the Northwest pilots to improve our pay and working conditions? If ALPA's cooperation was not needed, then why?

The full truth is that ALPA sits on the other side of the table and once a pilot is hired has a great deal of control over how that pilot's work is defined. ALPA was founded specifically to protect seniority and protect pilots from alter ego replacement (which they called out of senioirty) replacement back in the early days.

orvil 03-04-2014 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by rahc (Post 1594570)
The program widget didn't work for me on my Mac (couldn't download it). I called them and basically they got access to my computer with my permission. I placed the iCrew logins, and then they downloaded all of the the data and ran the program on my laptop while I watched.

I had my files with numbers the next day. Very simple process.

Ditto on this process. I have a Windows and it still wouldn't download. Make the phone call. They will walk you through the process. I've always used Sabre. Made the switch this year. I'm pleased with the results. It's a better product.

The report also came with instructions and pictures on how to fill in the forms. Pictures are important if you are a former Marine.

orvil 03-04-2014 04:30 AM

<LI class="dateStamp first">March 3, 2014, 2:03 P.M. ET Delta Air Lines: Between Smart Growth and Being a Bully

By Ben Levisohn
Delta Air Lines (DAL) is the big dog in the air, letting the likes of United Continental Holdings (UAL) and American Airlines (AAL) play catchup. Is it also becoming a bully?
Cowen’s Helane Becker and Conor Cunningham think Delta might be–they ask “Delta Becoming the Schoolyard Bully / the Junkyard Dog?”–and that has them worried. They explain:
Last week Hawaiian Airlines (HA) announced they will suspend service from Honolulu to Fukuoka after two years of unprofitable service. Hawaiian stated the market was not profitable. Delta recently started flying Honolulu-Fukuoka (and they have hedged the Yen at 80); both US airlines were operating about half full. As a result of Hawaiian leaving the market, we expect Delta’s load factors to improve. Delta has been slowly overlaying a lot of competitor capacity on the West Coast, especially to / from Seattle
We have long viewed Delta as an industry thought leader, so we aren’t surprised they have become the industry’s growth leader. We are modestly concerned about this competitive capacity though as much of the industry turnaround was related to playing well in the sandbox, and Delta is now walking a thin line between smart growth and market share grab.

Timbo 03-04-2014 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1594633)
There had better be a strong response to the idea of putting MPL in US cockpits taking away a widebody FO slot.

Excuse my ignorance, but what does MPL stand for?

Is that a 'cruise pilot'?

Boomer 03-04-2014 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1594732)
Excuse my ignorance, but what does MPL stand for?

Is that a 'cruise pilot'?

MPL = Mini-me Pilot License.

Bucking Bar 03-04-2014 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1594732)
Excuse my ignorance, but what does MPL stand for?

Is that a 'cruise pilot'?

A4A supporters, which I understand include Delta, are looking to roll back the ATP requirements for pilots in the US. Currently we are:

Airline Transport Pilot
Airline Transport Pilots (ATPs) must be at least 23 years old and have a minimum of 1,500 hours of flight time, including 500 hours of cross-country flight time, 100 hours of night flying, and 75 hours in actual or simulated instrument flight conditions. ATPs must also have a commercial certificate and an instrument rating. ATPs may instruct other pilots in air transportation service in aircraft in which the ATP is rated. ATPs must have a current Class I medical exam (which is more stringent than Class II or Class III), which must be renewed every six months or one year (depending on age). Like all pilots, they must re-validate their certificates every 24 months with a flight review.[2][8]
The airlines want;

Multi-crew pilot license
MPL pilots must be at least 18 years old, have a minimum of 250 hours of flying training, and 750 hours of theoretical knowledge instruction. Developed by the International Civil Aviation Organization, requirements for the multi-crew pilot license (aeroplane) (MPL(A)) were included in the 10th edition of Annex 1 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Personnel Licensing), which superseded all previous editions of the Annex on 23 November 2006.[9] MPL is a significant development in training professional pilots. It represents the first time in 30 years that ICAO had significantly reviewed the standards for the training of flight crew. The Center Air Pilot Academy in Denmark was the first FTO worldwide to graduate MPL pilots for Sterling.[10][11]
The airlines would prefer the lower standard in order to staff their airlines with ab-initio pilots at the lower (cheaper) standard.

As lee Moak has clearly stated (and everyone else knows) there is a pay shortage, not a pilot shortage. In addition to Captain Moak's comments we should hasten to add that the current structure of outsourced carriers is not a career and unappealing to those who might seek to follow us in our profession.

GogglesPisano 03-04-2014 04:57 AM

MPL:

The PIC becomes a professional CFI (he "mentors," like in the 1950's.) CRM disappears.


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