If I'm reading your post correctly...

Wasn't the case in 2007 when I interviewed and was hired. I used this very line. I think you may have some bad info there...

 

Well besides potential skeletons in the quote author's closet, maybe the rest of their SSP interview went badly.

I would have thought flying Delta pax and doing so with great customer service would be a positive trait as a candidate.

 

Pardon me, most of us are former ATL MD-88 guys who couldn't do the magical "west coast" flying out of MSP or whatever that was.

So I really don't understand what you're talking about... what is this "LAX" and "SEA" place? There's nothing west of ABQ. Nothing. I looked when I was landing in ABQ and I saw, nothing.

I wholeheartedly agree. For a guy starting his flying today, who won't be that much junior to me at mainline, they will have a lot of fun.

I hope.

I don't think you can get away with 1 man takeoffs and landings, I just don't. What I am more concerned with is getting rid of the relief pilots/crews enroute thanks to "drone" like technology. They takeoff and land together but after 30 minutes one pilot goes on break, the other sits in the cockpit with an open skype channel to a fancy dispatch, then they swap. Have a problem? Get the other guy back in. Kind of like the MPL without the brat. Now have multiple planes have problems... "thank you for holding..."

I'm making it up. I know they're working on stuff though and as sure as I am that we'd fight it and save 800-1000 WB FO jobs here, I'm not certain Norwegian Air types wouldn't adopt it.

I mean look at it this way, say it's 1000 WB FOs at 12 year pay plus benefits and training and profit sharing, let's conservatively say they cost $200K per year. It's $200M saved.

It'd be a fight. "Remember AF447" would be the rallying cry.

 

That has not been my experience with the panel. Generally, the more positive data points a candidate has with Delta, the better.

+ Always wanted to work for Delta
+ Already worked for Delta
+ Volunteered with a Delta charitable project
+ Worked with for a Delta subsidiary
+ Represented the Delta brand to customers

The panel objectively seeks Delta's "core values." Chief among these is a positive enthusiasm for Delta.

Entitlement isn't pretty and isn't a winning strategy. Perhaps that is what you thought you heard. From what I am hearing the reason many of the flows were not taken were objective failures on the tests ... which suggests a lack of preparation (perhaps due to a sense of entitlement ... why study, I'm in)

Also, Delta, like many mainline interviews are a league apart from express carrier interviews. If people are not actively working on preparations, both formal and informal, their chances of success are not high, no matter who they are.

 

That's some MD88 artwork begging to be made.

 

BB, I agree with much of what you strive for, but this is one of the reasons I am NOT in favor of bringing their whole list onto our list. I've heard the initial SSP guys have a roughly 50% acceptance rate. I don't want to sound harsh, but I don't want someone in my right seat that Delta doesn't also want there.

 

The same argument could be made for every merger.

The benefits outweigh the down sides.

I think we all can agree it would be better if Delta did the screening before they entered the Delta brand and began flying Delta passengers.

It sounds harsh, but I'm mostly interested in the end state ... that Delta pilots perform Delta flying. Whether Delta wants to get there by setting up it's own operation and sun-setting the failing parts of DCI, fine. But with a $25,000,000,000.00 investment already made in DCI it has a lot of momentum. Who knows, management out at least $4 billion into Comair without shedding a tear at it's funeral.

 

Was that from the same persons that gave you the good information that you told me that AR got hired a month before he actually interviewed? Or something that AR himself said after he got the "don't bother again" from HR?

 

It's below 30%. You've got to factor in that they were sifting through the lifer group, but the point remains the same. It's a group where many probably shouldn't be flying an airliner in the first place...

 

80kts,

Parts of the process were spooky on the DAL side. They had my payroll (sick time) records and full HR file from their subsidiary, plus my CP was there eating lunch. My info was already in Delta Security's database and my current Delta employee number is actually a recycled ASA number ... who knows what they were thinking, but there was a painting of the Delta Family Tree over in the Delta Offices that showed ASA and Comair merged into Delta and their brands disappearing. That disappeared (got painted over) when quite a few ASA pilots began to notice and they remodeled the space. In general, ASA (a publically traded Company with it's own marketing, code and tickets) was stripped of all of it's back office funtions and those jobs transferred to Delta (if you were a manager you transferred with longevity and some current Delta pilots did just that).

ALPA says Delta Management would have never merged their subsidiaries. Some of my friends in management who are now long retired stated, well, that was the plan (at least in the early days). My knowledge of that history isn't deep enough to make any definitive claims.

It would be interesting to know since thousands of people's lives were effected.