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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
(Post 1595686)
Perhaps DL is trying to prevent a repeat of the Northeast merger. They've all retired now, but for many of us here, we flew right seat for some of the worst ever "professional" pilots. You'd think after 25 years and 20K or so hours most would have figured it out, but they were about 50/50.
There's always gonna be a few percent you hire that are mistakes, but you have to accept that and move on. When you take on all comers someone else picked, your fear is you just hooked up with another Northeast. |
Originally Posted by Free Mason
(Post 1595525)
Sailing;
You appear to have contacts on the 4th floor, and if I recall have some at AMR. Go ask your AMR buddies who is going to be on their interview panels? Isn't there a APA pilot representative that takes a active part in the hiring process of the individual candidates? Maybe DALPA is missing an opportunity here. The lawyers would then have a green light to sue ALPA. There's enough frivolous lawsuits already, I don't want any more exposure to lawyers coming after my dues and our association. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1595523)
ALPA says Delta Management would have never merged their subsidiaries. Some of my friends in management who are now long retired stated, well, that was the plan (at least in the early days). |
Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
(Post 1595686)
Perhaps DL is trying to prevent a repeat of the Northeast merger. They've all retired now, but for many of us here, we flew right seat for some of the worst ever "professional" pilots. You'd think after 25 years and 20K or so hours most would have figured it out, but they were about 50/50.
There's always gonna be a few percent you hire that are mistakes, but you have to accept that and move on. When you take on all comers someone else picked, your fear is you just hooked up with another Northeast. Most of the NE guys were great fun to fly with. They had a few oddballs, no doubt, but that was long before the letters CRM came into being, and so did Western, and so did Delta. They were just operating the same way they had been taught in the 1950's and 60's. The Captain was the Boss, period, and you did it HIS WAY, or else. Now we have to expand the team, take a vote, and then ask if it's OK with the "Flight Leader", because if it's not... there'll be hell to pay! :eek::rolleyes::D |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1595521)
It's below 30%. You've got to factor in that they were sifting through the lifer group, but the point remains the same. It's a group where many probably shouldn't be flying an airliner in the first place...
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
(Post 1595804)
I'm not advocating scope recapture. Not at this point. The horse is already out of the barn. Way out. I'm not willing to spend one cent of negotiating capital to tighten up scope to force Delta to put 70 or even 76 seat RJ's onto mainline.
Surely you can see why. From a pilot perspective of anyone not currently near the bottom of the Delta seniority list, why would I want a huge voting block of junior pilots suddenly on the list? Why would I care about airplanes I'll never bid to fly? Surely you can see why. From a company perspective, why would I want thousands of pilots with 12 or more years of seniority pay scale when I could hire those same pilots onto the 1 year pay scale? And, pick and choose from amongst them, and even choose military pilots as well. To this... why would I care about airplanes I'll never bid to fly? You and I are on the 717- it's an RJ with 34 more seats in it. There are probably some pilots here that wouldn't care if that was off the property either if they think acquiring it costs them money. How about instead of only looking forward, we just draw the line at 0? |
Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1595765)
Couldn't be more wrong 80.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1595880)
My statement holds true for the Pinnacle guys. I didn't know any of you Mesaba crazies except the cute blonde girl who I long since forgot her name. ;)
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PBS Bid Question?
Hey Guys, A quick PBS bid question for the Bid Masters :
My category has ALV 74:00 (66:30-81:30) and a Reserve Guaranty 72:00. I am showing a credit of 65:20 (training and a spillover trip). Should I bid Block or Reserve for next month. I am thinking Reserve as the shortest trip in my category is 4 days and that will take me over the 81:30. Am I missing something? Thanks |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1595714)
I don't think there's any liability. Even a rookie HR dept at an upstart knows how to layer their interview process with more than enough plausable deniability for a million reasons. And DL's HR dept is no rookie. Unless they start stamping "UNSAFE TO FLY DELTA PASSENGERS" in red block letters on their application and then save it for audit, they have nothing to worry about.
Who, pilot John Doe? Well our records, backed up by Federal qualification standards, show he was fully qualified. He just didn't meet all of our personality requirements at the time. Perhaps he didn't know enough DL logo history, or his shoes weren't shined enough. We were still going to hire him, but he wore a blue tie to the interview, so... |
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