I gave one to a friend on a "mission" once who went from BKK to SEA on one day and then a month later SEA to LIM all on one buddy pass.

And got first to boot... doesn't work with one great team though, RT only.

It's not certified for that type of operation, but theoretically it could...during descent on path, the flt control computer takes constant stabilized vector path updates. If you lost all rnav input, the vector would freeze in its last known stabilized state. There is some time limit to this, but no wind, it shouldn't matter. The flare is done off altitude. So theoretically it could auto land out of an rnav.

There may however be a lack of programming logic for that maneuver. The way an rnav or gps approach is set up to work in the aircraft logic is that (assuming you don't click off the autopilot at da minus 50) is to fly down the descent path down the centerline, level off at 50 ft agl and fly down the centerline of the runway.

IOW, don't try it.

Going off the interactions I've had with DPA members in person, I can say emphatically that they have been successful in creating a group more bothersome than DALPA.
The irony is that DPA criticizes DALPA for the same exact things they make it a habit of practicing.

Well, LL, your reading comprehension is now suspect as demonstrated by your post above. I've been an ALPA member for close to 25 years now. I support them. I also know they need to change, or tweak a few things to keep up with the times and issues we live with today.

Allow me to refresh your recollection, L2.



Originally Posted by Timbo

That's it in a nutshell. As I've said many times here, nobody at National wants to rock the boat. You want to know why?

Isn't DuhWayne Worthless an Industry Lobbyist now?

And Randy Babbit had a Government job for awhile too...

An SOS should have happened long before the US Air pension grab. ALPA should have protected the CAL pilots jobs when they went on strike in 1983, and the EAL pilots jobs in 1989, when they stood up to Frank Lorenzo.

But, Frank Lorenzo was a Houston business man, and one of his good friends was (and still is) George Bush Sr.



My reply to Timbo.


Sadly, it will never happen now. I checked in on Ben's board last night and threw up a little in my mouth.

Apparently Lee Moak had 1,278,000 reasons not "to rock the boat at national" last year, or probably ever.

I am an ALPA supporter, but that is obscene and indefensible. Before that little bomb shell went off I would have said DPA was in grave condition on life support and drifting into the dirt nap.

That movement just snapped out of it and sat up straight in bed while yanking out the IVs. Phuque! Just when I thought they were in the death swirl in the bowl and gonna be gone.

Why is this bad? Here's why!

That little Moak nugget set back any chance at unity building for a long time. So much for getting our $hit together before section 6.

So ****ed I'd kick the dog if I had one. Might have to let the cat out back instead. There are a set of hawks building a nest in one of my palm trees!




I have not read the True Headings. I hope there is a great explanation to diffuse this. That would be great.

What would have been excellent is getting out in front of the issue with a True Headings. How about having the numbers broken down with explanations before TC and followers could exploit it.

Absolutely!! This has been upheld time and time again. Checking one's schedule is NOT tantamount to notification.

No need that I can see. Just don't respond to a phone call until nine hours later.

Well I tried it on the 717. Doesn't work.





717 = aerosim vfd. Close to the ground it says "screw you buddy" and runs to the join the black box for the flare. Whether that's what the real machine does, I dunno. But if they were using the RNAV and pulled the CBs for the other stuff, makes me wonder if a satelite can say "yeah man, I talked to GPS receiver X4124891DF1029 at 02:21.04 and he was here, and at .05 here..." ?

They're our very own Hare Krishnas coming to the vicinity of a crew room near you.

Funniest post of the week....

in defense of the movie, I enjoyed it. But my kids love it. So I love it.

We were going into Dubai last week, it was the F/O's leg but he needed to fill the Cat III App. square, so we did an autoland to fill the square.

The wx was clear and a million, a slight crosswind, maybe 8kts from the left, but a steady wind, zero turb. It flared smoothly, put the left main down very, very gently, then the right, then lowered the nose very gently. We were all stunned at how nice it was!

WOW!

It was the nicest autoland I've ever seen!

Now, sure, the 777 is the easiest, softest landing plane that I have flown, but usually when we do an autoland, it's firm. Not hard, but you know you've landed. So does everyone in the back. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.

I don't know if maybe there was a little gust in the flare or what, but I have never seen an autoland like that! It just rolled on so gently, left main first, then the right, slowly, you could barely tell we were on the ground. It was an 11!

That was so sweet I think I'd let it try to land out of an RNAV, or heck, even autoland out of a visual, with the autopilot off, just like the Asiana guys did!

What could go wrong? :D