The way I understood it is that it's a physical training problem ( classrooms and sims) not a personnel problem. I think other sim time is being looked at as an option.

I would agree that the number of sims that Delta owns are likely to be insufficient, and that other sim time around the world needs to be locked up as quickly as possible. I'm not sure that there is any lack of available classroom space, given the large number of empty rooms at the training center.

FWIW, I do see posting for SLIs in DeltaNet. That's a good sign. And I'm guessing that the Company will come to us for more NSLIs in Section 6.

JUST SAY NO!!!

I would assume so. To which numbers are you referring?

Respectfully, why are we discussing how to fix this? It's not our job. That's why there are managers. They manage assets or acquire additional assets (sims, classrooms, instructors). Let them manage. that's what they get well paid to do.

The "lost percentage" from the new contract, on an individual dollar base.

True, but if you don't eye-ball them, you better not complain.

Case in point, in 1985 when I was bobbing around Tx. in the 73, there was another 73 outfit giving us a hard time. I went over to G.O. and had a talk. They said they were not concerned...We all know how that worked out.

Agreed. But the Company will almost certainly come to us for concessions that would somehow reduce the amount of upcoming training required, and I would prefer to help point them in a different direction while there's still time.

Otherwise, I see us faced with the age-old question, "Why won't you help us? Do you really want to see us cut capacity due to a lack of trained pilots?"

You simply say to the company,

"There is a very easy way to eliminate most of your training issues, forever; pay everyone 777/747 pay."

That will eliminate the need to keep bidding up to higher paying aircraft to enhance your earnings. Everyone could bid what base/aircraft they like the most and stay there forever.

The company is always coming to us expecting us to solve the problems they created. I say, "Fine, but pay us FIRST, then we'll talk about fixing your problems."

Or tell them to call Pauli...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XGAmPRxV48

Here's the problem... we gave up stuff to get that profit sharing (pay increase)... then we gave up the profit sharing (past pay increase) to get the current pay increase... so we gave up stuff twice to get one pay increase... not a good plan.