Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Hey guys, well, actually, LA guys,

I need some recs for a good AME in the LA area. My guy has retired. Please PM me. I'm north of LAX but willing to go wherever.

Thanks in advance!

sailingfun

03-07-2014 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1597017)

Assuming it is done above board. Why didn't guys who wore brown suits that didn't get hired at DAL sue? Because they couldn't prove it. This is war. And of course a union that has a good working relationship with management might be able to "suggest" that those that went to a foreign owned carrier were directly contributing to unfair competition, and ultimately cabotage issues that will probably arise before you and I retire... therefore... since resumes never get seen... ooops, just didn't make the cut. too bad.

That is certainly how things operated in years past. It could still go on today if as you state you have a strong relationship with management. Might work at a few airlines but won't work at most.
One thing many pilots don't understand is how radically the court system has turned against unions. The big wave of Bush appointed judges in the early nineties were the final nails in the coffin. There once was a time when a airline union could express dissatisfaction about a contract and negotiations in a number of ways. Those days are gone and we sadly live at the mercy of the NMB.

dalad

03-07-2014 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1596697)

ALPA does not have any control over hiring. The lawsuits involved if ALPA even attempted to force this on airline managements would bankrupt the union in short order.

In some instances we do indirectly. DAL didn't hire any EAL scabs, crawlbacks either.

sailingfun

03-07-2014 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1597093)

In some instances we do indirectly. DAL didn't hire any EAL scabs, crawlbacks either.

We did hire some scabs. We also hired some strikers until RA stopped it.

scambo1

03-07-2014 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1597095)

We did hire some scabs. We also hired some strikers until RA stopped it.

Based on my research, we only have one scab on the property (according to the master scab list). He scabbed PAA, not eastern. So he was "acquired not hired."

Additionally, as far as I can tell, there was only one other scab on the DAL list and he's gone now. So please show your work.

dalad

03-07-2014 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1597095)

We did hire some scabs. We also hired some strikers until RA stopped it.

You are wrong, but I'm not going to get in a piffing match with you about it. DAL hired no scabs, period, end of story. Scambo is correct about the PAA guy, and the other guy was was from WAL.

Timbo

03-07-2014 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1596684)

What, you mean like they did with the CAL scabs? You know, the guys that took jobs from ALPA pilots.

Oh, that's right they invited them into ALPA.

That sounds to me like something an independent union might be able to do though.

If you want to see one go check out the Tool of the Day thread, go back a couple pages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpNrvO-yQA

He's now a "Professor" at UVU. He wears his uniform to class and he wears an ALPA lanyard! :eek:

LivingTheDream

03-07-2014 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1596950)

Just like T said, the boxes are part of the IFE system, our 330s used to have them.

Rode one of ours with the boxes last may from bcn to atl (ours were at the window seats and the center aisle seats)... thought I was going to die! How any one could put these on an oceanic airplane is beyond crazy! Absolutely zero leg room! :eek:

LivingTheDream

03-07-2014 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1597088)

There once was a time when a airline union could express dissatisfaction about a contract and negotiations in a number of ways. Those days are gone and we sadly live at the mercy of the NMB.

Airline unionism is done... unless... leadership arises that is willing to go outside the rla and spend a short time in jail (and if done correctly, it would be very short) Lech Walesa style.

For you youngsters, it's known as an SOS... but since it hasn't happened in the most egregious times, starting at least with the USair pension grab, I doubt it will ever be used.

Until that day, we will get scraps... period.

scambo1

03-07-2014 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1597122)

+717

facepalm. cue the apologists...

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